Bundesliga 2

[The Lone Gunman]

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Ah ok I thought they were average attendances. Didn't read thoroughly

Schalke's two home attendances so far:

61,801 v Kaiserslautern
60,403 v Holstein Kiel

Meanwhile, both of Hamburg's games have been 57,000 sell-outs.

Crazy that clubs with that sort of support are in the second tier of any country.

[Harry Lime]

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Schalke's two home attendances so far:

61,801 v Kaiserslautern
60,403 v Holstein Kiel

Meanwhile, both of Hamburg's games have been 57,000 sell-outs.

Crazy that clubs with that sort of support are in the second tier of any country.

I recalled reading this from earlier this year. Quite refreshing for a club who are notorious underachievers but still average 30,000.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/apr/27/fortuna-dusseldorf-to-offer-fans-free-tickets-next-season-germany

[Swiss Peter]

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Schalke's two home attendances so far:

61,801 v Kaiserslautern
60,403 v Holstein Kiel

Meanwhile, both of Hamburg's games have been 57,000 sell-outs.

Crazy that clubs with that sort of support are in the second tier of any country.

I didn't realise Schalke were that well supported. Especially noteworthy given that Dortmund and Bochum are on the doorstep.
Be interesting to see if crowds hold up if they don't start picking up some form soon.

[splott parker]

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I didn't realise Schalke were that well supported. Especially noteworthy given that Dortmund and Bochum are on the doorstep.
Be interesting to see if crowds hold up if they don't start picking up some form soon.

Traditionally well supported, proud working class city, Gelsenkirchen. Would be interesting to see a ‘ticket price’ table. I’d imagine German football is more affordable.

[Swiss Peter]

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Traditionally well supported, proud working class city, Gelsenkirchen. Would be interesting to see a ‘ticket price’ table. I’d imagine German football is more affordable.

Yes, I'd be interested to see that. My impression is that at the top end it is about the same or slightly more than here. I had to pay more than £60 (through official club lines) for my Hamburg derby ticket earlier this year. On the other hand you can stand on the Ostkurve at Hertha (and no doubt other grounds) for around £12-15.

[JamesWales]

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German football isn't as cheap as it was (where is?!) But it is still generally more affordable than here.

Go back 20 years and their stadiums were way 'behind' ours but a lot got improved for the 2006 world cup and now nearly all their grounds are very modern. There are very few of the traditional large curved open terraces etc left.

All that needs paying for I guess and at the top end I think tickets are more or less the same as here. At Dortmund for example the priciest tickets are €61. Indeed, one could argue they are more expensive as I don't think kids ticket prices are universally applicable in Germany, unlike the UK where they (nearly) always are.

The difference is at the lower end, where you can stand at Dortmund for €18.50.

I think that kind of pricing structure is in place pretty much thoughtoht the leagues, with it obviously getting cheaper the lower you go and concession prices probably become more readily available.

Just checked and Hannover 96, who are in 2.Bundesliga and are a club probably similar to us in terms of status (and whom I once watched in their old ground!), have their most expensive tickets at €37. Similar to here really.

Generally I vastly prefer their model. Mainly because they have terraces but also because they cater for all price points. I care little what the top price at clubs is, and I care more that the lowest price is affordable, and German clubs do that. There is also much less of the general bullshit like cashless grounds and you are more likely to get free train travel included in the match ticket etc - something City could easily work with TfW on.

Overall, Germany 1-0 UK

[Der Kaiser]

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Watched this the other day, quite a good breakdown of why traditionally bigger clubs are down in the 2nd tier.

https://youtu.be/VrrMZ2GsC5g?si=Yz-R-omplOmgXxEH

[The Lone Gunman]

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Quite a game in Bundesliga 2 this morning:

Magdeburg 6 Hertha Berlin 4

[Swiss Peter]

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Quite a game in Bundesliga 2 this morning:

Magdeburg 6 Hertha Berlin 4

Just looked. 2-3 at HT and 3-4 after 55 mins? Strange result, although nothing surprises with Hertha these days!.

[Swiss Peter]

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Watched this the other day, quite a good breakdown of why traditionally bigger clubs are down in the 2nd tier.

https://youtu.be/VrrMZ2GsC5g?si=Yz-R-omplOmgXxEH

Other than the slightly irritating style of presentation, that's a really interesting watch Der Kaiser.

[Harry Lime]

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Only just catching up properly on the results from last weekend, I think it might have been a case of Dirty Harry syndrome - In all that excitement, I clean forgot.

B2 didn't lack excitement of its own, 37 goals in 9 games. Honourable mentions to Elversberg beating HSV, St Pauli hammering high flying Holstien Kiel and Hannover netting 7. Add to that a thriller at Schalke, Düsseldorf going top with a fine away win and Hertha coasting to a win to ease the pressure on them.

This week we have Union making their Champions League debut at little old Real Madrid. Hope they give a good account of themselves

[Swiss Peter]

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Only just catching up properly on the results from last weekend, I think it might have been a case of Dirty Harry syndrome - In all that excitement, I clean forgot.

B2 didn't lack excitement of its own, 37 goals in 9 games. Honourable mentions to Elversberg beating HSV, St Pauli hammering high flying Holstien Kiel and Hannover netting 7. Add to that a thriller at Schalke, Düsseldorf going top with a fine away win and Hertha coasting to a win to ease the pressure on them.

This week we have Union making their Champions League debut at little old Real Madrid. Hope they give a good account of themselves

Another lively weekend in B2! After the Magdeburg 6 Hertha 4 result last weekend - Magdeburg go on to lose 4-0 and Hertha win 3-0 this weekend. As you say, some interesting and surprising results - especially the Hamburg one.

I was actually at the St. Pauli match. Sadly though I got an email just before kick-off to say easyjet had cancelled my flight back. Had to leave at half-time (with SP 3 up) to go and sort out the mess that ensued. Interesting to note (looking at the other threads) that the minute's silence was held and respected by both sets of fans . Always surprises me with the amount of beer consumed outside and in the ground!

Yep, be good to see Union doing well this week.

[Swiss Peter]

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Ooops - 4-3 at Schalke. Closer than I thought!

[Harry Lime]

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Another lively weekend in B2! After the Magdeburg 6 Hertha 4 result last weekend - Magdeburg go on to lose 4-0 and Hertha win 3-0 this weekend. As you say, some interesting and surprising results - especially the Hamburg one.

I was actually at the St. Pauli match. Sadly though I got an email just before kick-off to say easyjet had cancelled my flight back. Had to leave at half-time (with SP 3 up) to go and sort out the mess that ensued. Interesting to note (looking at the other threads) that the minute's silence was held and respected by both sets of fans . Always surprises me with the amount of beer consumed outside and in the ground!

Yep, be good to see Union doing well this week.

Would you say that there is just as much of a drinking culture over there then Peter?

I always assumed it would be more restrained