Bundesliga 2

[Swiss Peter]

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I think I would be a bit miffed as a St Pauli fan, or even a German football fan generally to see such a young successful manager leave for Brighton. I know Brighton have done well recently and no doubt offer a bigger salary and wage but it's a shame when managers who win promotion don't finish the job to keep them up. And St Pauli on paper could be every bit as big s club as Brighton, if not bigger.

Not sure.

St Pauli went straight down again after one season when promoted 13 odd years ago. Even given a general anti outside investment sentiment across German football, they are a club famous for doing things a bit differently, and they walk a tightrope between preserving the principles and values of the club/fans and exploiting opportunities for revenue generation and growing the club. Hard for them to compete - even against a Premier league club the size of Brighton. From what I've read the fans were pissed off but resigned to losing Hürzeler .

[JamesWales]

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I noticed yesterday that half of the Euro24 stadiums are home to second tier clubs for 2024/25.

I'm sure that's never happened before and another example of the strength of the 2.Bundesliga

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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Mid-season break after this weekend. 4 points separate 1st and 10th.

Paderborn were top and were beaten 4-2 at home by stumbling Schalke. Kaiserlautern were going well and then got tonked 5-1 at mid-table (not that there seems to be one) Darmstadt.

Elversberg, who were in the regional leagues in 2022, are top, but Himmel knows how long that will continue. Different rules apply for the Bundesliga 2. (Except for poor old Regensburg, stranded at the bottom with 8 points and 7 goals from 16 games). So, Frohe Weihnachten to the maddest division around. Just don't put any money on who'll go up.

[the other bob wilson]

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Mid-season break after this weekend. 4 points separate 1st and 10th.

Paderborn were top and were beaten 4-2 at home by stumbling Schalke. Kaiserlautern were going well and then got tonked 5-1 at mid-table (not that there seems to be one) Darmstadt.

Elversberg, who were in the regional leagues in 2022, are top, but Himmel knows how long that will continue. Different rules apply for the Bundesliga 2. (Except for poor old Regensburg, stranded at the bottom with 8 points and 7 goals from 16 games). So, Frohe Weihnachten to the maddest division around. Just don't put any money on who'll go up.

What a barmy table it is - Hannover have lost more than a third of their games, yet they’re two points off top.

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/2bundesliga/table

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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German football trivia facts of the day:

1. Borussia is the Latin form of Prussia
2. The German word for a penalty simply translates as 'an eleven metres'.
3. When playing for a German team don't literally translate phrases such as 'on the wing', 'on the head' , 'sweeper' etc. (I speak from experience).

[the other bob wilson]

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German football trivia facts of the day:

1. Borussia is the Latin form of Prussia
2. The German word for a penalty simply translates as 'an eleven metres'.
3. When playing for a German team don't literally translate phrases such as 'on the wing', 'on the head' , 'sweeper' etc. (I speak from experience).

Never heard that about a penalty in Germany. I can remember a book of photographs from the 1978 World Cup where West German captain Bertie Vogts was wearing a captain’s armband with the word “Spieilfuhrer” (sorry if I’ve got the spelling wrong) on it.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Never heard that about a penalty in Germany. I can remember a book of photographs from the 1978 World Cup where West German captain Bertie Vogts was wearing a captain’s armband with the word “Spieilfuhrer” (sorry if I’ve got the spelling wrong) on it.

Bertie Vogts played in the first ever Bundesliga game I saw: Gladbach v Bayern and around 1978.. Also playing were Netzer, Gerd Müller, Beckenbauer, Stielike, Hoeness, Alan Simonsen, Sepp Maier and a host of world-class players.

As for the word 'Führer' it simply means leader and is used in many contexts that don't involve invading Poland

By the way, Münich in Spanish = Monaco.

The names Mönchen (as in Gladbach), München, Monaco are cognate with the English words 'monk(s) / monasteries'

[the other bob wilson]

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Bertie Vogts played in the first ever Bundesliga game I saw: Gladbach v Bayern and around 1978.. Also playing were Netzer, Gerd Müller, Beckenbauer, Stielike, Hoeness, Alan Simonsen, Sepp Maier and a host of world-class players.

As for the word 'Führer' it simply means leader and is used in many contexts that don't involve invading Poland

By the way, Münich in Spanish = Monaco.

The names Mönchen (as in Gladbach), München, Monaco are cognate with the English words 'monk(s) / monasteries'

So does spielfuhrer come from the person who is allowed to the speak to officials or is it that he speaks on behalf of the team?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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So does spielfuhrer come from the person who is allowed to the speak to officials or is it that he speaks on behalf of the team?

Team captain.

[Swiss Peter]

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With apologies for resurrecting this one, but I know a few were interested. This last weekend broke records for overall attendances at the German second division level, helped by 71.5k at Hertha v HSV (link).

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/2bunde...-leagues-20541

A really odd one is that for a while on Saturday, before HSV and Köln played, Magdeburg were leading the table after 19 games - yet their home record this season is W0 D7 L2. How does that work? (Yeah, I know, lots of away wins 😊)

https://footystats.org/germany/2-bun...y-league-table

[JamesWales]

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With apologies for resurrecting this one, but I know a few were interested. This last weekend broke records for overall attendances at the German second division level, helped by 71.5k at Hertha v HSV (link).

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/2bunde...-leagues-20541

A really odd one is that for a while on Saturday, before HSV and Köln played, Magdeburg were leading the table after 19 games - yet their home record this season is W0 D7 L2. How does that work? (Yeah, I know, lots of away wins 😊)

https://footystats.org/germany/2-bun...y-league-table

Remarkable. I was going to post almost the same thing this evening! I saw the Magdeburg stat on Instagram earlier and quite incredible it is.

Amazing to see Schalke continuing to struggle.

[Swiss Peter]

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Remarkable. I was going to post almost the same thing this evening! I saw the Magdeburg stat on Instagram earlier and quite incredible it is.

Amazing to see Schalke continuing to struggle.

I read that Magdeburg thing on the net somewhere and didn't actually believe it until I looked it up!

[JamesWales]

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I read that Magdeburg thing on the net somewhere and didn't actually believe it until I looked it up!

Same. And I excitedly told several people in work about it so the bundesliga fan club is growing. One guy even sparked up a chat about Dynamo Dresden in the 3.Liga shortly after.

Interesting to see Dortmund struggling this season too.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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Mid Feb and Magdeburg finally win at home! What a terrible season they must be having. I went to Magdeburg once; they have a fine example of the architecture of Hundertwasser.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BCne_Zitadelle_von_Magdeburg

I think they were also the team who couldn't score one season so their fans stood behind the goal with big arrows pointing at the goal. Feel free to add your own knowledge of Magdeburg! It's what Friday nights are for.