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  • Added Time. A Mistake ?

    I reckon so. Last week there were 2 games that went into 112 minutes - that's almost a quarter of a 90 minute game. Only 2 matches had less that 10 minutes. Very soon the 90 minute mark will be meaningless, and players will actually waste more time. Sides will also either waste time or not waste time later on in games depending on how the game is going. Across all games, the extra time was always greeted with cheers/boos and the tension mounted, and the crowd often became vocal for the 1st time in a game. I can see that stopping. Also, people will drift away at 90 minutes. 'I'll hang around for 4 or 5 but not 10 or 12. Bad, bad decision..

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    Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

    It's also illogical for teams to score in the 95th minute when it's a game of 90 mins.
    And the concept of scoring in the "45th minute + 3" when there is a 48th minute in the second half is rather silly.

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    • #3
      Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

      Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
      It's also illogical for teams to score in the 95th minute when it's a game of 90 mins.
      And the concept of scoring in the "45th minute + 3" when there is a 48th minute in the second half is rather silly.
      There's always been time after 90 minutes for as long as I've been watching football.

      And 45+3 is there to distinguish it from 48, and gives more information than just 45.

      I'm not defending huge amounts of injury time, but both of these things are fine.

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      • #4
        Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

        3 options

        - add on the right amount of time
        - stop the clock
        - accept that football matches are actually about 50 minutes and that in certain circumstances teams take the absolute piss and can manipulate results quite easily.

        I am glad they are doing something. I would like to see clock stopped at subs or any stoppage over 30 seconds say and get harsher on yellows for time wasting when the clock isn't stopped.

        Isn't it strange how nobody has ever got cramp when their team is losing?

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        • #5
          Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

          Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
          3 options

          - add on the right amount of time
          - stop the clock
          - accept that football matches are actually about 50 minutes and that in certain circumstances teams take the absolute piss and can manipulate results quite easily.

          I am glad they are doing something. I would like to see clock stopped at subs or any stoppage over 30 seconds say and get harsher on yellows for time wasting when the clock isn't stopped.

          Isn't it strange how nobody has ever got cramp when their team is losing?
          referees are useless - remember the 6 second rule ? Players have been taking the **** and they'll find a way to do it again. For example, you are winning away from home. 8/9 minutes come up on board. You get cramp, take time with throw ins, etc, etc. You know the referee won't caution you because he'll just add time onto added time, but the [home] crowd will become less animated as the time drags on, and the frenzied 'last couple of minutes' never happens..

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          • #6
            Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

            Stop the clock like in other sports might be a viable alternative.

            The problem with added time is that as soon as it starts the game changes completely- the team winning gets deeper and deeper and the game gets manic.

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            • #7
              Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

              I'm generally in favour of the new approach to added time. I agree with Warnock for once.

              But it is interesting how often referees have blown up exactly at the end of the specified added time period, regardless of how much additional time has been lost through late subs, goal celebrations and traditional time wasting. I think the ref gave an extra minute at Elland Road following their equaliser but that wasn't normal in the first round of league games.

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              • #8
                Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

                Originally posted by lardy View Post
                There's always been time after 90 minutes for as long as I've been watching football.

                And 45+3 is there to distinguish it from 48, and gives more information than just 45.

                I'm not defending huge amounts of injury time, but both of these things are fine.
                The clock should stop when the action does. For once, American Football is more logical in that respect.

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                • #9
                  Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

                  Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                  I reckon so. Last week there were 2 games that went into 112 minutes - that's almost a quarter of a 90 minute game. Only 2 matches had less that 10 minutes. Very soon the 90 minute mark will be meaningless, and players will actually waste more time. Sides will also either waste time or not waste time later on in games depending on how the game is going. Across all games, the extra time was always greeted with cheers/boos and the tension mounted, and the crowd often became vocal for the 1st time in a game. I can see that stopping. Also, people will drift away at 90 minutes. 'I'll hang around for 4 or 5 but not 10 or 12. Bad, bad decision..
                  No. It just shows how lax refs have been in the past to eradicate it from games. And still the greatest waste of time has not been addressed viz the 60-75 secs refs take for a free kick outside the box.

                  StT.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

                    Originally posted by Steve the Tea View Post
                    No. It just shows how lax refs have been in the past to eradicate it from games. And still the greatest waste of time has not been addressed viz the 60-75 secs refs take for a free kick outside the box.

                    StT.
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                    As per my 2nd post. There are perfectly good rules and measures in place already.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

                      Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                      3 options

                      - add on the right amount of time
                      - stop the clock
                      - accept that football matches are actually about 50 minutes and that in certain circumstances teams take the absolute piss and can manipulate results quite easily.

                      I am glad they are doing something. I would like to see clock stopped at subs or any stoppage over 30 seconds say and get harsher on yellows for time wasting when the clock isn't stopped.


                      Isn't it strange how nobody has ever got cramp when their team is losing?
                      Stopping the clock is so obvious and easy to do, and if a Warnock team is taking the piss, keep it stopped an extra 10 seconds when they are deliberately time wasting, people will soon get the message.


                      The rules have changed get on with it! (everyone not you Eric)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

                        I’ve never heard a good reason why the clock isn’t stopped so it just seems odd to me as it’s the most logical thing to do

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                        • #13
                          Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

                          If u stopped the clock every time the ball went dead the game would go on for at least 125/20 minutes and the players would cramp up.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

                            Originally posted by theclaw View Post
                            If u stopped the clock every time the ball went dead the game would go on for at least 125/20 minutes and the players would cramp up.
                            Not really. The clock would be stopped in uniform with the time that refs effectively currently use as a timer in order to add on for injuries and time-wasting. Dead ball situations such as throw-ins, corners and goal kicks can be ignored as they are now. At present, added time can be more than the stipulated duration announced just before the 90th minute is supposedly up - as more injuries and time-wasting can take place thereafter.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Added Time. A Mistake ?

                              The amount of added time will drop as players realise time wasting is pointless

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