Added Time. A Mistake ?

[splott parker]

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Isn’t it only time that should have been added in previous seasons anyway through blatant time wasting? It’s just that specific time wasting has been highlighted.

[Grangenders]

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I’ve always felt that we concede far more last minute goals than anyone else. But that’s probably just my pessimistic outlook following the city!

[rich munn]

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I reckon so. Last week there were 2 games that went into 112 minutes - that's almost a quarter of a 90 minute game. Only 2 matches had less that 10 minutes. Very soon the 90 minute mark will be meaningless, and players will actually waste more time. Sides will also either waste time or not waste time later on in games depending on how the game is going. Across all games, the extra time was always greeted with cheers/boos and the tension mounted, and the crowd often became vocal for the 1st time in a game. I can see that stopping. Also, people will drift away at 90 minutes. 'I'll hang around for 4 or 5 but not 10 or 12. Bad, bad decision..

A tricky one for our minibus driver back to the Butchers in Rhiwbina!

How long does he have to wait ....

I'm sure our organisers will sort it out!

:ayatollah:

[llan bluebird]

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I always believed the reason against stopping the clock which seems the best option to me is that the professional top level game had to be the same as those played at Poncanna, but since there is no VAR or goal line technology at recretional pitches I guess that rational has gone.

For once Rugby has got it right, let the ref just stop the clock

[the other bob wilson]

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It’s ages since I went to a live rugby game, so I don’t know if those in the ground know exactly how much time there is to go like the TV audience does - if they don’t, it would be easy enough to do so. I’ve been banging on about how you never saw the advertised ninety overs in a day in the Ashes. That’s what happens in football, games never last anything like ninety minutes and if the new interpretation means we see closer to ninety minutes of actual football, then I’m in favour of it- hopefully, teams will realise all of the time wasting (game management they call it these days) is not working and the amount of added time may start to return to how it was years ago.

Still think that rugby’s got it right though.

[The Bloop]

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The ball was in play for an average of 55 minutes in the Premier league matches last season. Anything that gives better value to the paying public is a win-win for me.
It's comparable to the cricket and a full 90 overs not being bowled in a day during the Tests. The public are being short-changed.

[blue_emu]

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I don’t really care about rugby but I've always thought football has been lagging behind with their tech. The use of the stop clock, mic'd up refs, TMO (VAR), concussion subs and sin bins. The latter would be quite controversial but I would be open to sin bins being introduced for blatant diving proven by VAR.

Saying that though there is something magic and exciting about the ambiguous injury time if you're last gasp defending or searching for a goal. But maybe its time to move on?

[Eric Cartman]

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I don’t really care about rugby but I've always thought football has been lagging behind with their tech. The use of the stop clock, mic'd up refs, TMO (VAR), concussion subs and sin bins. The latter would be quite controversial but I would be open to sin bins being introduced for blatant diving proven by VAR.

Saying that though there is something magic and exciting about the ambiguous injury time if you're last gasp defending or searching for a goal. But maybe its time to move on?

I've always thought sin bins for a cynical foul (tug back etc) would improve close games. I hate the way attacking play is deliberately broken up and that action pretty much goes unpunished (unless a yellow card with 3 mins to go counts as a punishment).

[blue_emu]

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I've always thought sin bins for a cynical foul (tug back etc) would improve close games. I hate the way attacking play is deliberately broken up and that action pretty much goes unpunished (unless a yellow card with 3 mins to go counts as a punishment).

I’d be keen on this too. The tactical foul is very annoying if on the other side. I recall Bale vs USA in the dying moments of that World Cup game getting deliberately taken out.

Also another factor to think about is these rules do seem to benefit the better teams which could lead to less smaller teams causing upsets. The ‘time management’ seems essential if you're playing against superior opposition and within a shout of a result.

[Steve the Tea]

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As per my 2nd post. There are perfectly good rules and measures in place already.

Oops. Apologies. Didn't read your second post.

StT.
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[BlueArmy 86]

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But time is being added on for things that are not time wasting.

Danny Murphy was discussing it on the Radio and he said last weekend a keeper on the losing team got booked for wasting time. They were 2-0 down. Now that is pathetic. Also, in another game that was 2 or 3 nil, the 6 mins injury time was given a further 3 mins. Seems OTT. Yes crack down on time wasting but don’t add on times for everything.

[dml1954]

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I reckon so. Last week there were 2 games that went into 112 minutes - that's almost a quarter of a 90 minute game. Only 2 matches had less that 10 minutes. Very soon the 90 minute mark will be meaningless, and players will actually waste more time. Sides will also either waste time or not waste time later on in games depending on how the game is going. Across all games, the extra time was always greeted with cheers/boos and the tension mounted, and the crowd often became vocal for the 1st time in a game. I can see that stopping. Also, people will drift away at 90 minutes. 'I'll hang around for 4 or 5 but not 10 or 12. Bad, bad decision..

If the players waste time during the 90 minutes or added time it will get added on again. It is illogical that you would think that the new measures would make players waste more time. It is much more likely that they will waste less, as they know they wont get away with it and they certainly wont want to stay out on the pitch any longer than necessary and risk points. As for the fans leaving, I have never understood why fans leave early as why leave half way through added time when their team are winning narrowly and hanging on or losing narrowly and pressing to get level ? Never understood that but the same people will carry on doing it regardless of how much time is left.

[lardy]

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Stopping the clock would be awful. Just think how players and teams would use it as a tactic to disrupt the flow of a game.

Why not take 2 minutes over a goal kick? Why not walk around with the ball at a throw in, waiting for that perfect moment to throw it in?

People talk as if the game would be just as it was before, but this is so major it would completely change the way the game is played. It would likely become like American football where the game is broken down into individual plays. There would need to be a second clock to count how much time the team is allowed between plays.

Be careful what you wish for. Everyone complained about no consistency with offsides, and then we got var measuring players armpits. It became consistent and we realised that there was still as many infuriating decisions

If you think stopping the clock will eliminate time wasting you're crazy. It will just breed a different type of it.

[lardy]

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The last time everyone said "rugby has got it right" was moving the free kick forward 10 yards for talking back to the referee.

If I remember rightly, it was very quickly scrapped as it was a disaster.

What works in rugby, and why it works, is not necessarily going to translate into football.

[lardy]

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I don’t really care about rugby but I've always thought football has been lagging behind with their tech. The use of the stop clock, mic'd up refs, TMO (VAR), concussion subs and sin bins. The latter would be quite controversial but I would be open to sin bins being introduced for blatant diving proven by VAR.

Saying that though there is something magic and exciting about the ambiguous injury time if you're last gasp defending or searching for a goal. But maybe its time to move on?

You'll just get teams setting up a play to guarantee they play out the final minute (or longer).

Think of taking the ball into the corner, but the whole team doing it :hehe: