The Ivor Davies...

[Former Labour leader]

Put up for sale by Wetherspoons.
Good news or bad news? Long time since I've been in there.

[bobh]

Re: The Ivor Davies...

Bad news. Probably won't be a pub anymore.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Re: The Ivor Davies...

Put up for sale by Wetherspoons.
Good news or bad news? Long time since I've been in there.

I would argue 'not good news'.

If Wetherspoons can't make it work, then it'll probably end up as an estate agent's/solicitors'/double glazing shop or rented out ad-hoc at Christmas time to sell Christmas decorations.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: The Ivor Davies...

Put up for sale by Wetherspoons.
Good news or bad news? Long time since I've been in there.

Obviously the huge amounts it makes when City play at home aren't enough to make it profitable enough overall. I think that would apply to lots of pubs in Canton.

If the pub was to close, it'll make Canton a bit more expensive to drink in before a game and I wonder if less City fans would hit Canton before a game as a result, which would be bad news for other pubs as well.

[JamesWales]

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Definitely bad news. It's a proper working class pub.

The people that go there will still drink. But it will be at home. Will benefit the economy less, will cost the NHS more and will benefit society less.

Bad news.

[Michael Morris]

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Obviously the huge amounts it makes when City play at home aren't enough to make it profitable enough overall. I think that would apply to lots of pubs in Canton.

If the pub was to close, it'll make Canton a bit more expensive to drink in before a game and I wonder if less City fans would hit Canton before a game as a result, which would be bad news for other pubs as well.

Does it make huge amounts on matchdays? Most midweek games you can get a table and a cheap meal. It's busy but not so busy that it's breaking records.

Regulars throughout the week probably spend as much as the one off matchday visitors.

I was thinking about it when I saw this thread, it's main issue is competition.

Within 150 - 200m is

Hudo Lounge
Napier
Corp Yard
Canton Cross
The Canton
Butchers
Chapter
Canton Libs
Kings Castle
Slizza Pizza
Crafty Devils

So at least 10 pubs on the doorstep

Also a dozen or more restaurants and take aways inc Italian, Chinese, Indian, Japanese. Also cafe's offering full breakfasts/brunches ahead of City games. Fish and chip shops.

Plus Tesco's, Home Bargains, COOP, and various off licenses selling booze at half the price. European shops as well

From my initial thought that Canton was pretty barren for refreshments I now realise it's flourishing for all sorts of stuff.

Not as many take aways as City Rd but it smashes City Rd out of the park for drinking establishments.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Was doing a bit of work on a property last month and a lady walking past stopped to have a natter - as you do. She'd finished a shift in 'Spoons earlier and was bushed. Told me they'd done well that week and had taken '35', whereas normally they'd take 30. I'm presuming that's £30,000 per week which sounds pretty decent to me..

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: The Ivor Davies...

Put up for sale by Wetherspoons.
Good news or bad news? Long time since I've been in there.

Takes too long to drive there now, town will die too.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Definitely bad news. It's a proper working class pub.

The people that go there will still drink. But it will be at home. Will benefit the economy less, will cost the NHS more and will benefit society less.

Bad news.

The economy is screwed in Wales anyway more empty shops than anywhere, but hey we locked down longer and drive slower

[Hilts]

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Isnt the guy a staunch Brexiteer and Tory?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Isnt the guy a staunch Brexiteer and Tory?

Voted remain, have previously voted Labour, but anything right of 99% left would be considered right-wing extremist on here.

[Hilts]

Re: The Ivor Davies...

Definitely bad news. It's a proper working class pub.

The people that go there will still drink. But it will be at home. Will benefit the economy less, will cost the NHS more and will benefit society less.

Bad news.

I try to avoid Weatherspoons but there are loads of places in the area to drink. Arent there any places that have reasonable prices? Napier , Cross , Canton Hotel? Lib Club?

Pretty poor if certain clientele are priced out. Loads of people are on their own who go to pubs just for company. Shocking if none of these pubs cant compete with Spoons.

[Hilts]

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Voted remain, have previously voted Labour, but anything right of 99% left would be considered right-wing extremist on here.

I was talking about the guy who owns Spoons.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I try to avoid Weatherspoons but there are loads of places in the area to drink. Arent there any places that have reasonable prices? Napier , Cross , Canton Hotel? Lib Club?

Pretty poor if certain clientele are priced out. Loads of people are on their own who go to pubs just for company. Shocking if none of these pubs cant compete with Spoons.

Most pubs can't compete, they have a sound business model, and buy in bulk cheaply close to the use-by dates and sell it cheaply.

Breakfasts probably make them a lot of money too, filling them up in the mornings.

[JamesWales]

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I try to avoid Weatherspoons but there are loads of places in the area to drink. Arent there any places that have reasonable prices? Napier , Cross , Canton Hotel? Lib Club?

Pretty poor if certain clientele are priced out. Loads of people are on their own who go to pubs just for company. Shocking if none of these pubs cant compete with Spoons.

Yeah there are usually other options but it's nearly always the cheapest pub in any area so clearly it's important for people on lower incomes (and not so lower incomes too).

Cowbridge Road probably isn't the best example but there are some places; parts of London and Bristol, Bath, Oxford where Wetherspoons is the only place many can afford to drink.