The Ivor Davies...

[poc]

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Most pubs can't compete, they have a sound business model, and buy in bulk cheaply close to the use-by dates and sell it cheaply.

:hehe:

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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I was talking about the guy who owns Spoons.

If you based your drinking habits on the political allegiance of the owners then you'd probably drink mostly at home.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

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The Wetherspoons in Abertillery is also up for sale. Bad news for the town as it is the only place left which sells real ales.

[RichardM]

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Most pubs can't compete, they have a sound business model, and buy in bulk cheaply close to the use-by dates and sell it cheaply.

Breakfasts probably make them a lot of money too, filling them up in the mornings.

He also pays very low wages and employs the very minimum number of staff needed.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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He also pays very low wages and employs the very minimum number of staff needed.

Agreed he takes things to the limit, and that's why some people boycott. I don't go often but they have their place, if a Wetherspoons is closing it's not good news for an area, if they can't make money then there is a real problem.

[chrisp_1927]

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Always makes me laugh the way this 'they buy beer close to sell by date ' always comes up. Just a silly urban myth, right up there with Ryanair are cheap because they fly old planes .

A

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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2 pubs a day closing in England and Wales so far this year apparently.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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He also pays very low wages and employs the very minimum number of staff needed.

Weatherspoons pay the same rate as other pubs etc. As for employing the 'very minimum' of staff, I suspect you've never visited Weatherspoons. One of the plus points, apart from good value beer and food, is just how many staff are there.

You're talking complete boll*cks.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Always makes me laugh the way this 'they buy beer close to sell by date ' always comes up. Just a silly urban myth, right up there with Ryanair are cheap because they fly old planes .

A

Actually, you are correct, I always thought that was true as it makes common sense but they deny it :thumbup:

Probably still mostly down to buying power though and these reasons below.

How do Wetherspoons sell so cheap?
Wetherspoons pubs are free houses, as they are not owned by a brewery, they can shop around for the best prices for drinks and can choose which brands they will sell. In addition, the chain has some strict rules on beer, each needs to come with exactly 5 per cent head to make sure they're not selling too much.

Weatherspoons own their pubs outright - it's why they are often converted from other buildings.

"Buy a old building and renovate it, then you're not tied into renting from a brewery who also control the price you charge for pints."

The Channel 5 show Wetherspoons: How Do They Do It?, previously revealed this as one of the key reasons behind their low prices.

While another said not playing music, or showing sporting events also helps them to keep prices low.

They wrote: "They don't have to pay royalties to Sky and BT, or for music. This can cost pubs thousands."

Spoons previously revealed keeping costs down isn't the only reason it doesn't play music, but it gives the pubs a unique atmosphere.

And while its venues did show World Cup matches last year at handful of venues, it doesn't show Premier League football.

Some users also took to the thread to debunk a common misconception that Wetherspoons buys beer that is near its sell-buy date and that's why it's so cheap.

One Reddit user said: "The myth that it’s due to near-expiry date beer always makes me laugh."

Wetherspoons has also confirmed that at this is a "urban myth".

[JamesWales]

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Appreciate no one has said it here, but that example of Tim Martin 'sacking staff during Covid' is one of the finest examples of online misinformation there is. It spreads around online forums and echo chambers and is often cited by people (usually in s proxy Brexit debate) but it is absolutely completely false.

He did the right thing. - said that if anyone wanted to get more secure work elsewhere during Covid' then they would prioritise taking them back later.

[Hilts]

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Appreciate no one has said it here, but that example of Tim Martin 'sacking staff during Covid' is one of the finest examples of online misinformation there is. It spreads around online forums and echo chambers and is often cited by people (usually in s proxy Brexit debate) but it is absolutely completely false.

He did the right thing. - said that if anyone wanted to get more secure work elsewhere during Covid' then they would prioritise taking them back later.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/24/wetherspoons-denies-abandoning-staff-in-coronavirus-crisis?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16953837293589&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fbusiness%2F2020%2Fmar%2F24%2Fwetherspoons-denies-abandoning-staff-in-coronavirus-crisis

[RichardM]

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Weatherspoons pay the same rate as other pubs etc. As for employing the 'very minimum' of staff, I suspect you've never visited Weatherspoons. One of the plus points, apart from good value beer and food, is just how many staff are there.

You're talking complete boll*cks.

I've been to various Witherspoons plenty of times and waited ages to be served because there aren't enough staff. I've eaten their crap food quite a few times as well.
It's not me that is talking bollocks

[BLUETIT]

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I've been to various Witherspoons plenty of times and waited ages to be served because there aren't enough staff. I've eaten their crap food quite a few times as well.
It's not me that is talking bollocks

Why did you eat it “quite a few times”, once should have been enough :hehe::hehe:

[chrisp_1927]

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Always seemed to me like the great Western was run on too few staff for years. Wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason it's a lot quieter now than it used to be.

[Baloo]

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The economy is screwed in Wales anyway more empty shops than anywhere, but hey we locked down longer and drive slower :thumbup:

I live in Cheltenham, which is considered a fairly affluent English town overall. There are loads of empty shops around the High Street area now. Perhaps a sign of changing consumer habits, accelerated by the lockdown.