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    Arsenal say increasing diversity is a "key priority" after the club were criticised for having no black, Asian or minority ethnic players in their women's squad photo.


    Arsenal, if these are the best they can get why the problem. Surely Squads should be the best a Club can get. Why include anyone who isn’t good enough?
    If you’re good enough…..

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    Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

    Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67195794

    Arsenal, if these are the best they can get why the problem. Surely Squads should be the best a Club can get. Why include anyone who isn’t good enough?
    If you’re good enough…..
    Depends how and where they are recruiting.

    A team photo of 27 players at a major club in north London without a single non-white face has to raise questions.

    There may be reasonable answers, but somehow I doubt it!

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    • #3
      Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

      If there's a bias (either concious or unconscious) in the recruitment process then it does matter.

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      • #4
        Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

        For a sports team, pick the best players. As long as there's no bias in the recruitment I don't get the problem.

        Of course in other organisations diversity can be enormously valuable and important to have.

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        • #5
          Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
          Depends how and where they are recruiting.

          A team photo of 27 players at a major club in north London without a single non-white face has to raise questions.

          There may be reasonable answers, but somehow I doubt it!
          I would be very surprised if Arsenal ladies recruited from the local community , white , black or whatever minority

          They probably get the best players from all over the country

          I would imagine these players are more likely to be from Hampshire than Harlesden

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            Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

            Stories like this are the usual divisive sectarian nonsense that are slowly tearing us apart.

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            • #7
              Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
              Stories like this are the usual divisive sectarian nonsense that are slowly tearing us apart.
              And most of them come from the political right.

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                Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

                Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                And most of them come from the political right.
                Doesn't actually, but thats not the point.

                It's still emphasising that what divides us is the most important thing.

                BBC cheering it on of course, always amplifying any story like this which probably came from about two people's twitter accounts

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                • #9
                  Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

                  Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                  Doesn't actually, but thats not the point.

                  It's still emphasising that what divides us is the most important thing.

                  BBC cheering it on of course, always amplifying any story like this which probably came from about two people's twitter accounts
                  Come on, this happens with all news organisations. It's not a BBC thing.

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                    Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

                    Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                    Come on, this happens with all news organisations. It's not a BBC thing.
                    I agree, many do. But I think the BBC is one of the worst culprits and they have a broader responsibility. They routinely promote these stories at the expense of other things and as I say, I think it's driving wedges between people and creating an image of a society in constant racial conflict, which I don't think is true. I think it's making society more divided

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                      Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      I agree, many do. But I think the BBC is one of the worst culprits and they have a broader responsibility. They routinely promote these stories at the expense of other things and as I say, I think it's driving wedges between people and creating an image of a society in constant racial conflict, which I don't think is true. I think it's making society more divided
                      How do you know the BBC routinely promotes these stories at the expense of other things ?

                      Where have you got this from ?

                      You are having one of your nights here

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                      • #12
                        Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        How do you know the BBC routinely promotes these stories at the expense of other things ?

                        Where have you got this from ?

                        You are having one of your nights here
                        Because the BBC often report on these stories, frequently based on a tiny reaction on twitter. And they only have so many stories on the website / TV news and thus other stories by default slip down the agenda.

                        Sometimes the demand for racism seems to outstrip supply and this strikes me as one of those occasions.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

                          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                          I agree, many do. But I think the BBC is one of the worst culprits and they have a broader responsibility. They routinely promote these stories at the expense of other things and as I say, I think it's driving wedges between people and creating an image of a society in constant racial conflict, which I don't think is true. I think it's making society more divided
                          There's around 70,000 black, mixed, Asian people living in the borough of Islington, in a total population of around 215,000.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            Because the BBC often report on these stories, frequently based on a tiny reaction on twitter. And they only have so many stories on the website / TV news and thus other stories by default slip down the agenda.

                            Sometimes the demand for racism seems to outstrip supply and this strikes me as one of those occasions.
                            So no idea at all then

                            Get back in your box

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                            • #15
                              Re: Diversity - Is it going too far?

                              How is it going too far? It's actually pretty strange seeing an entirely white team and staff. It's like something from another era.

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