Etete today

[Bobby Dandruff]

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yes different players improve at different rates - any young player coming through is going to have some batter games than others, it doesn't mean when they have a bad game that they aren't ever going to make it, it depends whether they can rise to the challenge.
If we write off any players who are the slightest bit inconsistent when they're trying to break into the team then we will never bring any players through.
He has 2000 minutes at championship level and a litttle more at lower league level, of course he's still developing.

Yes Etete has been consistent. Consistently poor bar the odd flash of potential.

I can’t see how any manager can consistently pick him from what I have seen so far, and especially after performances like today.

I think part of the reason is a complete lack of alternatives (e.g. Ugbo and Meite who at least put themselves about, which in itself is sad when that is the best that you can say about them)

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Etete is never going to be a bulldozing centre forward

Hartson was and he was good

Like Moore he had the physical presence but could play a bit too

If Etete and others have a future here they will be playing off these type of big units

For a fairly big guy Etete has some good touches and these need to be used positively as trying to improve the physical side of his game pointless

[the other bob wilson]

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The sound of knees jerking in this thread is deafening. There have been some like Splott Parker who have voiced there reservations about Etete in the past, but this thread doesn’t half seem like a reaction to one bad game on his part. He was not very good today and he’s inconsistent, but, for me, he’s the best we have in the position currently and, on his good days, he shows he has it in him to be a good striker at this level.

Because he’s so tall, I think Etete gets categorised as a certain type of striker, but I’m not sure he’ll ever be a traditional target man type . I’d say one of his main strengths is his quick feet and it may be that he’d be more effective in a side that got the ball down and played a bit more than we do.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The sound of knees jerking in this thread is deafening. There have been some like Splott Parker who have voiced there reservations about Etete in the past, but this thread doesn’t half seem like a reaction to one bad game on his part. He was not very good today and he’s inconsistent, but, for me, he’s the best we have in the position currently and, on his good days, he shows he has it in him to be a good striker at this level.

Because he’s so tall, I think Etete gets categorised as a certain type of striker, but I’m not sure he’ll ever be a traditional target man type . I’d say one of his main strengths is his quick feet and it may be that he’d be more effective in a side that got the ball down and played a bit more than we do.

If we do sign a big centre forward prepared to put his neck on the block then etete , Robinson etc will look far more effective players

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I wonder if it doesn't help any of our forwards that they're forever being chopped and changed. None of them have really had a run of games together to forge partnerships and understanding.

[Bobby Dandruff]

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The sound of knees jerking in this thread is deafening. There have been some like Splott Parker who have voiced there reservations about Etete in the past, but this thread doesn’t half seem like a reaction to one bad game on his part. He was not very good today and he’s inconsistent, but, for me, he’s the best we have in the position currently and, on his good days, he shows he has it in him to be a good striker at this level.

Because he’s so tall, I think Etete gets categorised as a certain type of striker, but I’m not sure he’ll ever be a traditional target man type . I’d say one of his main strengths is his quick feet and it may be that he’d be more effective in a side that got the ball down and played a bit more than we do.

I disagree.

Etete’s performance today just prompted me to say what I have been thinking for a while.

If anything this thread is starting to sound like lots of threads about another former striker of ours: Bobby G.

[Tuerto]

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He's made around 80 first team appearances at professional level, albeit a fair few as a sub, I mean c'mon, what are people waiting for, what do they think is going to happen? If it doe happen then it'll have to be an astonishing transformation in terms of strength, touch, movement, pace etc. I'd love too work for some of you lot, I'd just turn up for the first year or so and be pretty crap at my job, pick up the money, while you let me off the hook in terms of development. Cheers boys...

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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He's made around 80 first team appearances at professional level, albeit a fair few as a sub, I mean c'mon, what are people waiting for, what do they think is going to happen? If it doe happen then it'll have to be an astonishing transformation in terms of strength, touch, movement, pace etc. I'd love too work for some of you lot, I'd just turn up for the first year or so and be pretty crap at my job, pick up the money, while you let me off the hook in terms of development. Cheers boys...

Grant Holt made 378 appearances in the bottom divisions before scoring 23 in his first ever full season at Championship level.

[the other bob wilson]

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He's made around 80 first team appearances at professional level, albeit a fair few as a sub, I mean c'mon, what are people waiting for, what do they think is going to happen? If it doe happen then it'll have to be an astonishing transformation in terms of strength, touch, movement, pace etc. I'd love too work for some of you lot, I'd just turn up for the first year or so and be pretty crap at my job, pick up the money, while you let me off the hook in terms of development. Cheers boys...

How many twenty two year olds or lower are first choice centre forwards at Championship clubs? I don’t know the answer, but I bet it’s not many. Off the top of my head, there’s Cadamartari at Sheffield Wednesday who looked a very good prospect against us, but, going down the table at the moment, I can’t see any other club with a youngster as their established number one striker. Twenty two is young for a striker in this league especially at a club that, historically, is reluctant to give youth a chance.

Loads of us bang about our lack of creativity as well - we’ve only had one striker who has scored at a good rate in the last ten years or so.

[Tuerto]

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How many twenty two year olds or lower are first choice centre forwards at Championship clubs? I don’t know the answer, but I bet it’s not many. Off the top of my head, there’s Cadamartari at Sheffield Wednesday who looked a very good prospect against us, but, going down the table at the moment, I can’t see any other club with a youngster as their established number one striker. Twenty two is young for a striker in this league especially at a club that, historically, is reluctant to give youth a chance.

Loads of us bang about our lack of creativity as well - we’ve only had one striker who has scored at a good rate in the last ten years or so.

I don't know what his age has to do with it. He's been given an opportunity, he needs to take it, because unlike plenty on here, Buiut or whoever else is in charge wont see it from the point of view that he's 22 and still learning, he'll be out. I actually think he has some ability, his feet are pretty good, he can turn a player and carry the ball 10 15 yards, and he is much better facing the opposition goal. He can't play with his back to goal, he can't hold the ball up, he doesn't shield it or lean into the defender, that's a problem in this team. I hope he does well like i hope all of them do well, but i just don't see any improvement, which is what we should look for as a minimum. We had the same problem with Mark Harris, about 100 games in and people were debating the merits of his potential at this level.

[Blooburd]

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The sound of knees jerking in this thread is deafening. There have been some like Splott Parker who have voiced there reservations about Etete in the past, but this thread doesn’t half seem like a reaction to one bad game on his part. He was not very good today and he’s inconsistent, but, for me, he’s the best we have in the position currently and, on his good days, he shows he has it in him to be a good striker at this level.

Because he’s so tall, I think Etete gets categorised as a certain type of striker, but I’m not sure he’ll ever be a traditional target man type . I’d say one of his main strengths is his quick feet and it may be that he’d be more effective in a side that got the ball down and played a bit more than we do.

finally some sense in this thread haha

what a bunch of clueless dolts the rest of you are. One moment singing the young fellas name the next twisting in the knife...we were woeful today because we were set up to sit deep and soak. Hardly the strategy any striker likes to be involved in.

If he does read this thread i hope he remembers you are a loud MINORITY of dinosaurs in our fanbase that still think hoofball is the forgotten tactical art in the modern game. Go back to watching football from the 70s if you cant keep up at the back

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I don't know what his age has to do with it. He's been given an opportunity, he needs to take it, because unlike plenty on here, Buiut or whoever else is in charge wont see it from the point of view that he's 22 and still learning, he'll be out. I actually think he has some ability, his feet are pretty good, he can turn a player and carry the ball 10 15 yards, and he is much better facing the opposition goal. He can't play with his back to goal, he can't hold the ball up, he doesn't shield it or lean into the defender, that's a problem in this team. I hope he does well like i hope all of them do well, but i just don't see any improvement, which is what we should look for as a minimum. We had the same problem with Mark Harris, about 100 games in and people were debating the merits of his potential at this level.

I agree we all want him and others hungry and smacking in the goals

It's just for whatever reason , not working up front

With just a modest return from our forward line we could be knocking on that top 6

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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How many twenty two year olds or lower are first choice centre forwards at Championship clubs? I don’t know the answer, but I bet it’s not many. Off the top of my head, there’s Cadamartari at Sheffield Wednesday who looked a very good prospect against us, but, going down the table at the moment, I can’t see any other club with a youngster as their established number one striker. Twenty two is young for a striker in this league especially at a club that, historically, is reluctant to give youth a chance.

Loads of us bang about our lack of creativity as well - we’ve only had one striker who has scored at a good rate in the last ten years or so.

I think Whittaker at Plymouth is 22. Delap at Hull must be around 20 as well, but yes, there aren't many.

[the other bob wilson]

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I think Whittaker at Plymouth is 22. Delap at Hull must be around 20 as well, but yes, there aren't many.

Yes you’re right about Whittaker, he’s 23 on Sunday. - he’s a strange type of striker though, he’s got a great shot on him and often stands outside the penalty area for corners in the hope that the ball is cleared to him and he can have a whack from twenty five yards.

As for Delap, he seems to be played more as a wide player, that’s where he played against us and he did very well in that role.

One other thing about Etete, for what it’s worth, he’s our top scorer this season even if you agree that it was an own goal at Sheffield Wednesday.

[llan bluebird]

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He is halfway through his current contract, a decision will need to be made on whether we stick or twist in the summer.

If Bulut stays and gets backed he'll be a long way down the pecking order