Etete today

[J R Hartley]

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Out of context. I’m not saying they can’t be any good. Haaland is as good as anyone on the spot too.

But just because a person is a striker doesn’t mean them best placed or naturally better than some others.

You implied that target men don’t take penalties when loads do / have done

Grant Holt, Chris Wood, Ashley Barnes there’s another 3 who have scored over 80 penalties between them.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Not the same principal at all most free kicks are twice the distance of a penalty

But lots of forwards don't like taking them. Some do. I understand your thinking that they should relish them as that's their job, but it's not as simple as that.

[J R Hartley]

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But lots of forwards don't like taking them. Some do. I understand you’re thinking that they should relish them as that's their job, but it's not as simple as that.

If you haven’t got confidence to take a free shot from 12 yards, just you versus the goalkeeper, then you shouldn’t be playing as a forward. That’s why the best forwards are usually on penalties.

Look at Salah earlier this week missed one v Newcastle then shrugs it off and scores another one later in the game. Not a chance anyone else was taking it even though I have no doubt the likes of TAA and others have the technical ability to take them. All good forwards need to have that single minded confidence.

[WJ99mobile]

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You implied that target men don’t take penalties when loads do / have done

Grant Holt, Chris Wood, Ashley Barnes there’s another 3 who have scored over 80 penalties between them.

I can name loads of penalty takers that aren’t the number 9 either. My point being is just because he’s a forward doesn’t make him good and pens. And just because someones not a forward doesn’t make them worse than the Grant Holts of this world.

Should Sergio Ramos never have taken penalties?

You could argue in an empty room.

[J R Hartley]

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I can name loads of penalty takers that aren’t the number 9 either. My point being is just because he’s a forward doesn’t make him good and pens. And just because someones not a forward doesn’t make them worse than the Grant Holts of this world.

Should Sergio Ramos never have taken penalties?

You could argue in an empty room.

No one is saying non forwards can’t take penalties you’re just moving the goalposts.

You made a ridiculous point in the first place just take the mare on the chin.

[J R Hartley]

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Etete scored 4 out of 4 pens whilst playing as a for Spurs in the PL2 league so it’s sad that he doesn’t have the confidence to put himself forward for one of the penalties yesterday, especially when he really needs a goal and has gone over 3 months without one.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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If you haven’t got confidence to take a free shot from 12 yards, just you versus the goalkeeper, then you shouldn’t be playing as a forward. That’s why the best forwards are usually on penalties.

Look at Salah earlier this week missed one v Newcastle then shrugs it off and scores another one later in the game. Not a chance anyone else was taking it even though I have no doubt the likes of TAA and others have the technical ability to take them. All good forwards need to have that single minded confidence.

Now that's an interesting take. Lots dont.

[2b2bdoo]

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Who’s to say he doesn’t have the confidence, aren’t these things usually decided before a game.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Etete scored 4 out of 4 pens whilst playing as a for Spurs in the PL2 league so it’s sad that he doesn’t have the confidence to put himself forward for one of the penalties yesterday, especially when he really needs a goal and has gone over 3 months without one.

I didn't realise that. A goal, even from a penalty, could be a big confidence booster. It's why, I think, Jones gave Whitts penalty duties in 2009 instead of McCormack.

[J R Hartley]

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Who’s to say he doesn’t have the confidence, aren’t these things usually decided before a game.

If they are decided before the game how come we had two different penalty takers? You really think with a cobbled together rotated side two different penalty takers were chosen before the game ? Lol

If the nominated penalty taker didn’t fancy the second pen I’d expect a forward who hasn’t scored for 3 months to be demanding to take it

[J R Hartley]

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Now that's an interesting take. Lots dont.

Then I’d assume they are not very good forwards!!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Then I’d assume they are not very good forwards!!

So a forward who is adept at finding space to get on the end of crosses, corners, passes, cutbacks etc and scores lots from those positions but won't take a penalty isn't a good forward?

On that note, goodnight.

[J R Hartley]

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So a forward who is adept at finding space to get on the end of crosses, corners, passes, cutbacks etc and scores lots from those positions but won't take a penalty isn't a good forward?

On that note, goodnight.

Name me these players who have the confidence to score loads of the types of goals you mention but doesn’t have the confidence to take a penalty? You said there was loads so you must have some list.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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If you haven’t got confidence to take a free shot from 12 yards, just you versus the goalkeeper, then you shouldn’t be playing as a forward. That’s why the best forwards are usually on penalties.

Look at Salah earlier this week missed one v Newcastle then shrugs it off and scores another one later in the game. Not a chance anyone else was taking it even though I have no doubt the likes of TAA and others have the technical ability to take them. All good forwards need to have that single minded confidence.

I agree they only need to perfect six to eight spots, vary them walk up and smack it, if it's hard enough and close enough to the corner they are unsavable. I think they all should have the technique it comes down to handling the pressure and ignoring everything else around them, like the best professional golfers can do when they take a game-winning putt.

Some footballers can do that, most of ours obviously can't but they can work with sports physiologists and improve it, there has to be someone, but it may not be a Striker.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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These short run-ups are terrible too, trying to fool the keepers they just fool themselves.