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  • #61
    Re: How do young people cope?

    Originally posted by Dembe View Post
    Pointless having an opinion on something you can't change isn't it? At least that's what you said.
    The grown ups are talking now dembe

    Voting for a new government can change things

    If you are old enough to vote I would suggest that's what you do

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    • #62
      Re: How do young people cope?

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      The grown ups are talking now dembe

      Voting for a new government can change things

      If you are old enough to vote I would suggest that's what you do
      I am simply reminding the grown up of what he previously states, incase his old mind did nor recall events of only a few days ago.

      Blindly voting Labour over and over is your solution, because you dad did, and his dad before.

      The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.

      I was brought up "vote labour, keep the tory bastards out" I will never vote labour, the soft leftie types have created a mess where people rely on handouts, hard working people are expected to watch on as more and more people freeload.

      Oh shit, I forgot, I can't change it so my opinion is invalid, ah well on with my day I go.

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      • #63
        Re: How do young people cope?

        Originally posted by Dembe View Post
        I am simply reminding the grown up of what he previously states, incase his old mind did nor recall events of only a few days ago.

        Blindly voting Labour over and over is your solution, because you dad did, and his dad before.

        The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.

        I was brought up "vote labour, keep the tory bastards out" I will never vote labour, the soft leftie types have created a mess where people rely on handouts, hard working people are expected to watch on as more and more people freeload.

        Oh shit, I forgot, I can't change it so my opinion is invalid, ah well on with my day I go.
        You are out of your depth here sonny

        If you think people struggling are just relying on handouts rather than being at the mercy of government policy then I don't intend wasting any of my time discussing this with you

        I think it's best that, as you say, you get on with your day

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        • #64
          Re: How do young people cope?

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          How much will that raise ?
          My wife's £88 has gone to Central government not the Senedd.

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          • #65
            Re: How do young people cope?

            Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
            My wife's £88 has gone to Central government not the Senedd.
            Well it's a start

            A gesture

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            • #66
              Re: How do young people cope?

              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
              I don't intend wasting any of my time discussing this with you

              I think it's best that, as you say, you get on with your day
              You're a fast learner.

              You've been saying the same things over snd over on here since day dot, nobody "has a discussion" with you. You repeat yourself over and over while others have opinions and you jump over a thread saying the same things over and over.

              You don't want discussion, you just want to shout louder than the next person and repeat yourself until you fall asleep hoping the rest give up. You'll go quiet then pounce on a completely different thread saying the same things over and over.

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              • #67
                Re: How do young people cope?

                Originally posted by Dembe View Post
                You're a fast learner.

                You've been saying the same things over snd over on here since day dot, nobody "has a discussion" with you. You repeat yourself over and over while others have opinions and you jump over a thread saying the same things over and over.

                You don't want discussion, you just want to shout louder than the next person and repeat yourself until you fall asleep hoping the rest give up. You'll go quiet then pounce on a completely different thread saying the same things over and over.
                I don't want discussion with you that's for certain sonny

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                • #68
                  Re: How do young people cope?

                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  I don't want discussion with you that's for certain sonny
                  I am absolutely gutted.

                  I've always wanted to have an internet back and forth on housing issues with a brick wall.

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                  • #69
                    Re: How do young people cope?

                    Originally posted by Dembe View Post
                    I am simply reminding the grown up of what he previously states, incase his old mind did nor recall events of only a few days ago.

                    Blindly voting Labour over and over is your solution, because you dad did, and his dad before.

                    The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.

                    I was brought up "vote labour, keep the tory bastards out" I will never vote labour, the soft leftie types have created a mess where people rely on handouts, hard working people are expected to watch on as more and more people freeload.

                    Oh shit, I forgot, I can't change it so my opinion is invalid, ah well on with my day I go.
                    There were 6.4 million people on Universal Credit in January 2024. 39% of them were in work - but not earning enough to live.

                    Is the 'mess' you speak of people claiming benefits (many don't claim who could) or the levels of pay that mean they cannot survive without?

                    The benefits system is a mess - the UC 'reforms' didn't resolve that and in many ways made it worse - but the underlying problem is poverty and low pay (and high housing and utilities costs). I'm sure you have your reasons for blaming 'soft leftie types' for all that but I think there are more obvious targets.

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                    • #70
                      Re: How do young people cope?

                      Originally posted by Dembe View Post
                      I am absolutely gutted.

                      I've always wanted to have an internet back and forth on housing issues with a brick wall.
                      I know but it's for the best

                      Maybe you can do some finger painting with the teacher or play in the sand pit ?

                      Best of luck with everything

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                      • #71
                        Re: How do young people cope?

                        Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                        There were 6.4 million people on Universal Credit in January 2024. 39% of them were in work - but not earning enough to live.

                        Is the 'mess' you speak of people claiming benefits (many don't claim who could) or the levels of pay that mean they cannot survive without?

                        The benefits system is a mess - the UC 'reforms' didn't resolve that and in many ways made it worse - but the underlying problem is poverty and low pay (and high housing and utilities costs). I'm sure you have your reasons for blaming 'soft leftie types' for all that but I think there are more obvious targets.
                        You are wasting your time Jon

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                        • #72
                          Re: How do young people cope?

                          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                          There were 6.4 million people on Universal Credit in January 2024. 39% of them were in work - but not earning enough to live.

                          Is the 'mess' you speak of people claiming benefits (many don't claim who could) or the levels of pay that mean they cannot survive without?

                          The benefits system is a mess - the UC 'reforms' didn't resolve that and in many ways made it worse - but the underlying problem is poverty and low pay (and high housing and utilities costs). I'm sure you have your reasons for blaming 'soft leftie types' for all that but I think there are more obvious targets.
                          There are also plenty that claim that shouldn't.

                          People know how to play the system, people that are fit enough to work cash in hand but also claim the highest rates of disability, housing benefit etc etc. People know how to play the system. They'll squeeze every last penny they can, child benefit etc. How much is given to people that don't need it every year?

                          There are black people in America that blame the welfare state for ruining black families, mothers happy to raise kids without fathers because they get housing and other handouts.

                          More you give more people take, perhaps money given to people that don't need it but are happy to claim it (and more) could be better spent elsewhere, maybe they could spend it on care for the elderly, and put our council tax rates back down.

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                          • #73
                            Re: How do young people cope?

                            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                            You are wasting your time Jon
                            You've played the system your entire adult life, you would say that. But as you've pointed out, you don't want to discuss with me do you so you needn't reply

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                            • #74
                              Re: How do young people cope?

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              Well that's capitalism for you

                              Thatcher basically privatised the social housing sector and this is what we are left with

                              If people are appalled by this then blame the selfish gits who voted Conservative in the 1980s

                              It will take 20 years of investment in social housing to turn this nightmare around

                              There was a post war concensus in housing policy and although mistakes were made such as some of the high rise estates it was accepted that low cost housing for rent and sale was needed

                              Along came the Tories, ripped up protected rent ......this is where you are paying huge market rents to private landlords ! ......and sold off council housing .....Great for those who got a house from a huge state subsidy ........a nightmare for those left scrabbling and squabbling around for what was left

                              It's not the fault of the Welsh government , they have stopped the sale of council homes
                              There’s a huge amount of houses being built to the north and west of Cardiff….adding 100,000 to the population. I’m not sure who is buying all these new builds but they appear to be….i imagine there has to be some social housing amongst them all?

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                              • #75
                                Re: How do young people cope?

                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                How do you propose that the Welsh government fund the huge House building needed which was lost to council house sales ?

                                Without tax raising powers ?

                                Enlighten me
                                Give them £100Billion, they would blow it in weeks on making Famers uncompetitive by planting more trees, slowing the motorways to 40mph and as many daft ideas as possible to further reduce the terrible economy.

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