Can anyone explain

[William Treseder]

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Not quite what I was getting at. More about the bringing of negativity to the game from the start, singling out players based on perceived previous displays rather than what you’re seeing. The individual in question clearly made people around him uncomfortable with his very loud opinions btw

That’s one of the negatives about all seater stadiums. If you’re near an arsehole, then you’re near him all season. On the terraces you could just move about.

[Nobody's Rep]

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That’s one of the negatives about all seater stadiums. If you’re near an arsehole, then you’re near him all season. On the terraces you could just move about.

Haha hadn't thought about it like that - moving seats then becomes a game of jeopardy as sometimes the better the devil you know 😂

[blue matt]

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ive never abused a player, I dont even boo them at 1/2 and full time, so I guess to some on here im a " happy clappy fan "

never really felt its right, apart from Paul Parry in the last game at NP, he was atrocious, and I did shout abuse at him

I look at the posts on here, yes sure some will never be happy and will only ever post negative stuff, but thats the way it is, some are only happy when moaning and bitching, some are negative glass 1/2 full folks

Ive been taking in more non-league games this year ( logistics of coaching a team Saturday morning and driving up the M4 to Wales, its just not doable ) mainly at Bath, while the attendance is under 2 K, you never hear fans moan at players, not once have I heard any, yes the ref and Lino's take dogs abuse, but the players get none , I wonder why that is ? ?

[Nobody's Rep]

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ive never abused a player, I dont even boo them at 1/2 and full time, so I guess to some on here im a " happy clappy fan "

never really felt its right, apart from Paul Parry in the last game at NP, he was atrocious, and I did shout abuse at him

I look at the posts on here, yes sure some will never be happy and will only ever post negative stuff, but thats the way it is, some are only happy when moaning and bitching, some are negative glass 1/2 full folks

Ive been taking in more non-league games this year ( logistics of coaching a team Saturday morning and driving up the M4 to Wales, its just not doable ) mainly at Bath, while the attendance is under 2 K, you never hear fans moan at players, not once have I heard any, yes the ref and Lino's take dogs abuse, but the players get none , I wonder why that is ? ?

I'm the same - never moan at the players directly - yes groan when things don't go well or mistakes are made but never seen the point of this and never seen getting on the teams back make a noticeable difference

I really object to a player getting ironically cheered when they get substituted if they have had a bad game as I can't believe any player goes out with the intention of not doing their best

[blue matt]

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as I can't believe any player goes out with the intention of not doing their best

this is the point, these players are professional / elite footballers, they are judged all the time with stat's, a few rubbish games and that stays with them, when contracts are renewed or they are after a new team, they want the best stat's they can get

even if they have no pride in the shirt, them stat's are important and they dont go out to get bad ones

[Loramski]

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Not quite what I was getting at. More about the bringing of negativity to the game from the start, singling out players based on perceived previous displays rather than what you’re seeing. The individual in question clearly made people around him uncomfortable with his very loud opinions btw

I'm with you here. I can't see how getting on the players' backs helps anything. Trouble is on here, as Blue Matt says, that you're seen as a happy clapper if you're not frothing at the mouth 24/7 so you're part of the problem.

As I said about Ralls in another thread, players don't make mistakes on purpose and they know when they've mishit a pass or whatever, they don't need people pointing it out to them and then reminding them about it all game. How's that going to help their confidence? Each to their own though, I guess.

[sneggyblubird]

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I've been going since the seventies too and seen some very,very poor City sides down the years but never once booed a City side off the pitch and never shouted anything I wasn't prepared to say to their face should the need arise.

[Dembe]

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Not quite what I was getting at. More about the bringing of negativity to the game from the start, singling out players based on perceived previous displays rather than what you’re seeing. The individual in question clearly made people around him uncomfortable with his very loud opinions btw

Not saying I agree with being negative rom the off, preemptive negativity isn't my thing but I also believe he is entitled to moan.
Used to have one near me in the family stand, big ginger bloke ALWAYS shouting at Manga, he'd have a good game and could play blinder for 93.5 minutes and do something ng in the last second and this big ginger ****er would moan, he'd get one in every week. I just ignored him. There was a bloke shouting at Bowler yesterday, highlight of the first 10 minutes was when he shouted something about his hairband..plenty of people were talking about how shit he was but this bloke decided to shouty it through the game, you get them.

Maybe tell them next time, unless they post on here they won't be aware of how they've upset loads of people

[llan bluebird]

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My god, we must have all of our mother Theresa section of fans on this thread alone.

I have never bod'd half time or full. How do the players know if it was aimed at them, the manager, or the ref. But, I moan at the players and manager all game. I sit in "HH" so it's just venting, I doubt the guys in "AA" can hear me

Its professional sport, not amateur or juniors, its big boy's stuff with huge rewards, so critiquing and the occasional poor comment is part of the profession these boys have entered. We pay these lads roughly £400K~£1,500,000 a year. It's a great gig to get into if you can. We are not talking about Pontyclun U11's here.

If I am not happy with my decorator I tell him, its just an extension of that.

We all have our favourites for whatever reason, I'd never listen to a poor word about Whitts but Gunnarson took about six seasons before I appreciated his contributions. We all have our biases

[William Treseder]

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My god, we must have all of our mother Theresa section of fans on this thread alone.

I have never bod'd half time or full. How do the players know if it was aimed at them, the manager, or the ref. But, I moan at the players and manager all game. I sit in "HH" so it's just venting, I doubt the guys in "AA" can hear me

Its professional sport, not amateur or juniors, its big boy's stuff with huge rewards, so critiquing and the occasional poor comment is part of the profession these boys have entered. We pay these lads roughly £400K~£1,500,000 a year. It's a great gig to get into if you can. We are not talking about Pontyclun U11's here.

If I am not happy with my decorator I tell him, its just an extension of that.

We all have our favourites for whatever reason, I'd never listen to a poor word about Whitts but Gunnarson took about six seasons before I appreciated his contributions. We all have our biases

You wouldn’t moan like a pussy at your decorator before he even started though would you? Or get him back to your house every other week and moan like f*ck would you?

[Dave Blue]

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If the crowd have any enthusiasm on arrival it is soon doused by the limp starts we continually produce. Talk about the opposition ‘silencing the crowd’, they don’t have to.

[bluesp]

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I'm with you here. I can't see how getting on the players' backs helps anything. Trouble is on here, as Blue Matt says, that you're seen as a happy clapper if you're not frothing at the mouth 24/7 so you're part of the problem.

As I said about Ralls in another thread, players don't make mistakes on purpose and they know when they've mishit a pass or whatever, they don't need people pointing it out to them and then reminding them about it all game. How's that going to help their confidence? Each to their own though, I guess.

Absolutely spot on.

[Dembe]

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I went to yesterday's game, first one in a while, within 4 seconds of kick off I was pissed off at Nat Phillips for booting the ball upfield, kept it to myself, but you could sense early where I was sat people weren't at all happy with Bowler. Nobody seemed upset that people weren't all praise and love for every player on the pitch.

Im a grown man, ill have an opinion and im not really arsed what anyone else thinks because I respect other grown men have their own opinions too, if something bothers you do smothering about it, tell the fella nicely that he's spoiling yours and others gamed experience.

He won't know unless he reads the board.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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You wouldn’t moan like a pussy at your decorator before he even started though would you? Or get him back to your house every other week and moan like f*ck would you?

You'd moan at the decorator after he'd finished the first room. You'd phone the company and request another decorator. If they sent the same decorator out a second time and he starts making another hash of the job you're unlikely to give him the chance to finish the room before you rip into him.

[PhyllisStant]

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You wouldn’t moan like a pussy at your decorator before he even started though would you? Or get him back to your house every other week and moan like f*ck would you?

That's not remotely the same is it? You wouldn't applaud him doing some quality cutting in either would you you melt. Nothing wrong with complaining when we're being served up crap in a football ground.