Yes Cymru

[tomcat]

I can't see how an independent Wales would be able to finance itself, I'd also be concerned about being ruled by a Welsh-speaking Crachach cabal. I'm interested in people's views......

[xsnaggle]

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If they are a totally Welsh organisation I just wonder why they use english in their title. :shrug:

[RichardM]

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I can't see how an independent Wales would be able to finance itself, I'd also be concerned about being ruled by a Welsh-speaking Crachach cabal. I'm interested in people's views......

Have you read any of the information on the Yes Cyrmu website, for example https://www.yes.cymru/booklet-5?
As it is now, we would 'ruled' (I prefer governed) by the people we elect. Being independent doesn't mean " being ruled by a Welsh-speaking Crachach cabal."

[William Treseder]

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Come the revolution you’ll all be driving around in a Porche
I don't like Porche’s. Come the revolution, you’ll drive what your told!

[RichardM]

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Come the revolution you’ll all be driving around in a Porche
I don't like Porche’s. Come the revolution, you’ll drive what your told!

:hehe:

[tomcat]

Re: Yes Cymru

Have you read any of the information on the Yes Cyrmu website, for example https://www.yes.cymru/booklet-5?
As it is now, we would 'ruled' (I prefer governed) by the people we elect. Being independent doesn't mean " being ruled by a Welsh-speaking Crachach cabal."

Yes, one-eyed at best :hehe:

[WJ99mobile]

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Not this again :hehe:

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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If they are a totally Welsh organisation I just wonder why they use english in their title. :shrug:

Maybe because there are multiple languages in Wales so why alienate anyone by just having it named in Welsh.

All their literature is available in both English and Welsh.

If it gains support for Welsh independence they can call themselves whatever they want as far as I'm concerned.

[surge]

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The dragon has two tongues. It's a campaign to get people talking about what independence could be, and heck a lot of work to do before it's realistic possibility..but we'd be better off it it was possible and declined because we love the UK rather than because being part of the UK (at least in current set up) apparently makes us too weak to leave.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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it wouldn't be able to fund itself

In South wales we have more in common with the west country than we do with Llanidloes or Llangollen

Our trade and transport is along the M4 , Paddington route

Its quicker to get to Nottingham than it is to get to Bangor

A plane service from Cardiff to the North was hardly ever used , except by politicians

In most of North Wales they look toward the urban centres of Liverpool and Manchester , not Cardiff

We have the joy of watching Wales beat Belgium in euro 2016 but economically and socially we are miles apart , quite literally

[ManBearPig]

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Seems that anything the senedd actually has control over; education, health etc lags behind England, often dropping further since they got any control.

As a proud Welshman I want a separate country but it seems unrealistic. I have read the yes cymru stuff and it all just seems a bit like brexit over again. Lots of vague facts about how we will be better under self rule but very little substance besides maybe we could sell our water and electricity to England. That will pay for it all..

[William Treseder]

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it wouldn't be able to fund itself

In South wales we have more in common with the west country than we do with Llanidloes or Llangollen

Our trade and transport is along the M4 , Paddington route

Its quicker to get to Nottingham than it is to get to Bangor

A plane service from Cardiff to the North was hardly ever used , except by politicians

In most of North Wales they look toward the urban centres of Liverpool and Manchester , not Cardiff

We have the joy of watching Wales beat Belgium in euro 2016 but economically and socially we are miles apart , quite literally

If what you say is true, and Wales couldn’t fund or support itself, then what a sad inditement that really is. It basically tells us that we aren’t part of the UK by choice any more, but by necessity, we may as well change our name to West England.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The vast majority of the population of Wales live in the urban centres of Newport, Cardiff and Swansea and the South Wales valleys

Thats where the industry is , where commerce is , when the transport links are , where the entertainment industry is based

Do people have any idea how much it would cost to build a motorway from merthyr up to caernarfon ?

If Wales wants to be a separate country then it needs to surely have decent transport links from the main area of population to the only other concentration of population .....the Wrexham, Colwyn Bay, Llandudno, caernarfon , Bangor region

And even if billions is spent building this road its not like we are connecting cardiff to Birmingham, its cardiff to a small population

Who is going to use it ?

People in the North are still going to watch bands in Manchester or fly from Liverpool Airport

I am all for strength in language but Welsh independence in 2021 is potty

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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If what you say is true, and Wales couldn’t fund or support itself, then what a sad inditement that really is. It basically tells us that we aren’t part of the UK by choice any more, but by necessity, we may as well change our name to West England.

It is true

Its been that way since the industrial revolution and the coal , steel and Iron industries that brought loads of people from Somerset and the West Country to work in South Wales

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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it wouldn't be able to fund itself

In South wales we have more in common with the west country than we do with Llanidloes or Llangollen

Our trade and transport is along the M4 , Paddington route

Its quicker to get to Nottingham than it is to get to Bangor

A plane service from Cardiff to the North was hardly ever used , except by politicians

In most of North Wales they look toward the urban centres of Liverpool and Manchester , not Cardiff

We have the joy of watching Wales beat Belgium in euro 2016 but economically and socially we are miles apart , quite literally

Maybe because we've been ****ed over by Westminster for decades.