Eli King wins young player

[Hilts]

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We have a few promising players whove come through our system the Colwills , Ashford , Davies , King , Conte.

Noone really knows if they can kick on and be 1st team regulars. My worry with Bulut is they wont even get a decent opportunity.

[fugsyphil]

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It's a fair point about Turnbull. The counter argument is that Turnbull hardly had a kick for Celtic in his last 2 years with them (he fell out of favour mid way through the 2021-22 season). You make it sound like he was a top rated player.

After watching Turnbull since Christmas I'm pretty confident any number of midfielders would be an improvement, young or old.

The assertion that King was 'hardly tearing up trees' is not really accurate. He had excellent reviews and won his clubs young player of the year award despite being with them only 6 months. But fair enough if you don't rate him, however I think he has something. He is a really good dap; a Declan Rice build and physique, has the best engine at the club, and is a pretty good set piece taker. The one criticism I have of him, is that he plays within himself. With his size and stamina he should look to impose himself more on the game and dominate. I think Morison said something similar after those couple of starts in Feb '22 against Liverpool and Coventry - that was that he had to take more chances, to be more positive with his passing rather than just take the safe option. Morison was a conundrum, he talked a lot of sense, but said it in a really, annoying and irritating way.

You've clearly followed King in way more detail than I have so I'll give your opinion higher value than my own for this debate and hope you are proven correct despite suspecting the opposite!
The defender who had a season at Livingston arrived back here with huge expectations and was soon shown to be awful (ciaron brown I think). Hopefully Eli will have made some decent strides in his game to match your enthusiasm for his progress!! I'll happily accept being wrong from my first impressions

[Rontomuk]

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Raith Rovers are playing Ross County tonight in the Scottish playoff final first leg, it will be a chance to see how he has developed

[Cardiff Ultra]

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Its on BBC Scotland if anyones interested

[Rontomuk]

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Its on BBC Scotland if anyones interested

That's radio, streaming on Sky Football at 8 pm, he is in the starting lineup squad number 18

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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1-0 Ross. King's shot handled in the box for a penalty.

[Tuerto]

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1-0 Ross. King's shot handled in the box for a penalty.

He took a shot? That's enough for me!

[Rontomuk]

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He took a shot? That's enough for me!

Ended 1-2 he was unlucky not to score a good save by the keeper

[AdrianAlston]

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I thought he looked good. Again, he needs to impose himself on the game more. He certainly didn't look like an inexperienced kid and physically he's very good.

[City123]

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He took a shot? That's enough for me!

We'll soon coach him out of that nonsense

[Tuerto]

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We'll soon coach him out of that nonsense

:hehe:

[AdrianAlston]

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The defender who had a season at Livingston arrived back here with huge expectations and was soon shown to be awful (ciaron brown I think).

Phil, this is a good point. Brown's biggest draw back was his lack of athleticism. You can get away with at lower levels but not at Premiership and to a lesser extent Championship level.

Athleticism, pace, size and locomotion are now paramount. You've got to have the ability of a Bernado Silva to make it without. That's why the Colwill's, King and Isaak Davies could be so important to us over the next couple of seasons. I'll also mention Nyakhuwa. Just look at a Premier team coming out of the tunnel; they're huge.

It's also why we so often looked impotent last season with Siopis and Wintle (Ralls is a class above these two, and gives us an 'edge' and set piece) in centre midfield, flanked by Collins and Ng. It's ironic that the attackers get the blame but the speed of action of the midfield (including the full backs, because they are midfielders when we have the ball) is what creates the space and opportunity for the front 3/4.

[LA Bluebird]

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Not being argumentative but that's not what I remember Brown's biggest draw back was. His biggest draw back as I remember it was he couldn't kick the ball 3 yards in the direction of somebody wearing the same colour shirt as him.

Certainly not Ferdinand or Van Dijk in terms of athleticism and pace, but relatively big and decent in the air, probably a bog standard borderline Championship/League 1 center back athletically. Or am I thinking of somebody else?

[life on mars]

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of the year at Ross County.

https://x.com/rosscountysc/status/1791576425838837922? A s=46&t=5XvNdsdmLTsVTx09ZSEfIA

NB just noticed it was posted 22 hrs ago so apologies for duplication I missed it.

Well worth a duplicated post ..

Well done Eli .

Be our hero and come back home. .

[AdrianAlston]

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His biggest draw back as I remember it was he couldn't kick the ball 3 yards in the direction of somebody wearing the same colour shirt as him.

I don't remember that but nor would I contradict it. But he played under Mad Mick and I don't remember during that tenure any central defenders trying to pass.

We currently have a few midfielders who suffer from the fault to which you refer. Although, on times last season it appeared that they had been instructed not to pass the ball in a forward direction.

Ron Greenwood's mantra was that the ball should always go forward (pass and move) and during his training sessions backward or sideways passes were banned.