Where do we go from here?

[Father Dougal]

Re: Where do we go from here?

Charlton, Bolton, Pompey down there ages, Sunderland much longer than they hoped, Reading don’t look like coming back anytime soon, Bradford fell further and never recovered.

It’s a graveyard of mismanaged clubs

Yeah there are only a handful of genuinely indisputable big clubs in the UK. We aren't one of them.

Apart from that it's much of a muchness and taking it in turns.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Where do we go from here?

They’re in the Championship butt

But they are a big club and were out of the Championship for at least 10 years

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Where do we go from here?

Pompey had massive problems. Most big sides who stay down there have had massive issues that have kept them down there.

I am saying that they are a big club in the lower leagues as were Sunderland, West Brom , Leeds etc when they were down there

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Where do we go from here?

Back stronger now?

Too early to tell

Wait till they play us

[horse_face]

Re: Where do we go from here?

I’m at a loss having just watched that. No new manager bounce, defensively awful, 2 goals in 7 games, zero confidence, a fan base on the edge and an owner running the club into the ground with the assistance of his two yes men.

League 1 beckons but I’m not sure the rot will stop there.

Sludge we have to get rid of the CEO at least. He’s never at the club, neglect and zero strategic planning is finally catching up with him

[John Buchanan]

Re: Where do we go from here?

Time to call Big Sam. The number one priority is to avoid relegation.
We have, at the very best, a bunch of average players who are soft, underperforming and, for some bizarre reason have become a bit "precious".
They need sorting. Come to think of it, it all needs bloody sorting.

[Carl Dale's Mole]

Re: Where do we go from here?

I think this goes beyond a Big Sam figure. I think this “team” can’t be helped right now.

Is it a culmination of bad moves by senior management? Is it finally catching up to us? Do I ask a lot of questions?

I dunno. But we’re going down and I’m very sad about it. Never in my lifetime did I think City would be Wales’ third best team.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Where do we go from here?

I think this goes beyond a Big Sam figure. I think this “team” can’t be helped right now.

Is it a culmination of bad moves by senior management? Is it finally catching up to us? Do I ask a lot of questions?

I dunno. But we’re going down and I’m very sad about it. Never in my lifetime did I think City would be Wales’ third best team.

1996.

City finished 22nd in the 4th Division (old money). Only Scarborough and Torquay were below them.

Halcyon days at Ninian.

[poc]

Re: Where do we go from here?

Charlton, Bolton, Pompey down there ages, Sunderland much longer than they hoped, Reading don’t look like coming back anytime soon, Bradford fell further and never recovered.

It’s a graveyard of mismanaged clubs

look at oldham

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Where do we go from here?

Who are the big clubs who have been down there for years?

Charlton and Bolton perhaps, if they are indeed big clubs.

Most come back stronger from what I can see

What do you class as stronger?

Most are loaded with crippling debt.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Where do we go from here?

I think this goes beyond a Big Sam figure. I think this “team” can’t be helped right now.

Is it a culmination of bad moves by senior management? Is it finally catching up to us? Do I ask a lot of questions?

I dunno. But we’re going down and I’m very sad about it. Never in my lifetime did I think City would be Wales’ third best team.

A decent manager would get us to safety by Feb

[Hilts]

Re: Where do we go from here?

A decent manager would get us to safety by Feb

🤣

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Where do we go from here?

🤣

The whole division is littered with poor quality and mismanaged sides.

A decent manager could get pretty much any championship club safe in this league.

We haven’t got a squad that was always destined for this level of points. It’s down to management and players playing far far below par.

[Crisp White Lines]

Re: Where do we go from here?

I fear we are becoming a Blackpool or Rotherham type of club.

An emergency appointment to keep us up won’t fix the deep-rooted problems.

Sadly, neither would relegation.

Our destiny will be determined by how rapidly Tan shifts his approach or leaves. Nothing else will influence our long term prospects.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Where do we go from here?

This is the way I see it. While we've had lots of not-very-good managers since Tan took over, the buck stops there and with the board he has appointed. It's a club being run by people he trusts with money, not people he trusts to make the right footballing decisions. The result has been years of terrible transfers that have cost a fortune that has not been close to being recovered when players leave (usually on frees), a merry-go-round of managers with their own ideas and styles, being expected to work on bargain buys with no idea of what we want to achieve in terms of playing style, while there's a desire to get back to the money pot of the Premier League but no idea how to get there, other than get lucky with a good manager. Tan has wasted a lot of money on his own stupidity.

I think we all agree that this situation hasn't just happened overnight. Until Tan learns how to run a football club properly, we'll keep being plunged into these problems. What if we somehow stay up this season, what will Tan have learned? Nothing. We'll be back in the same situation next season, unless we get very lucky.

Let's be frank, here. We're set for season after season of struggle at the foot of the table, with dwindling crowds, the way the club is run. Tan will not learn from his previous mistakes and will think, every season, we can make the playoffs. Every season, we'll fail. When Warnock took over, we at least had a decent enough squad, albeit badly managed by Trollope, that had come close to the playoffs the season before. Our current situation is unrecognisable from that.

At the moment we could get relegated this season, or hope for someone to save us this season, then get relegated next season, or the season afterwards. Sorry if that sounds grim, but anyone thinking that "as long as we can survive this season, we can push on next season" needs help. Yes, someone might save us this season, but Tan won't learn and we'll be plunged back into disaster with another shit managerial appointment next summer and the whole thing goes again.

I see us having 2 options:

1) Tan sells up
2) Tan learns how to run the club properly

Otherwise it's back to League 1 and the Football League trophy (whatever it's called) eventually. From there is anyone's guess.