Imagine this scenario...

[The Lone Gunman]

After several weeks of contract negotiations, Cardiff City release a statement in May 2024 confirming that Erol Bulut will not be staying with the club. The board are said to be actively seeking a new first team manager.

A couple of weeks later, the club's official website announces that the Bluebirds have got their man. The new manager is confirmed as being Omer Riza, a 44 year-old Londoner whose previous managerial experience totals a year as a player-manager at Cheshunt in the Isthmian League during 2013/14, a brief spell as assistant manager at Heybridge Swifts in 2014/15 and seven games as a caretaker-manager at Leyton Orient in 2017.

Apart from his spell at Leyton Orient, when the club was relegated to the National League, Riza's only other involvement on the coaching staff of a Football League club came in 2023/24, when he was employed as a first team coach at Championship side Watford. After a series of poor results, manager Valerian Ismael and coach Riza were sacked by Watford in March 2024.

Can you imagine what the reaction would have been if the above had happened?

[Der Kaiser]

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Hilariously he's got us in decent form.

















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[Citizen's Nephew]

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That's just going to make some people's heads explode TLG. Very clever. Like what you did there. :thumbup:

[Carl Dale's Mole]

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The fact he thinks he’s a serious candidate makes me dislike him more :hehe:

[Rjk]

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of course he wouldn't get the job under those circumstances, the same could probably be said for any caretaker manager though.
I was apprehensive about him before new started, as he had been part of the team that were so moribund under Bulut, but to my eyes there are some things he's definitely got moving in the right direction so far.

he's trusted Robinson, Tanner Bagan and Colwill and they've all benefited from that.
as a side we are pressing better, attacking with more fluidity and purpose and getting more numbers forward when we do attack.
Players like Goutas and Ng rediscovering their form has also helped.
there are definitely big question marks over his substitutions though, not just in today's game but also Millwall.
it just about came off against Millwall, and backfired massively today.
if it was my decision I'd probably give him a couple more games to see if he can improve that aspect and continue the good progress we are making in other areas. I'm not saying give him a 5 year contract here and now, but in my opinion there's something worth looking at.

if we do decide to go for an experienced manager, there's every chance they could be just as bad as Bulut or any of his predecessors.

[Father Dougal]

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of course he wouldn't get the job under those circumstances, the same could probably be said for any caretaker manager though.
I was apprehensive about him before new started, as he had been part of the team that were so moribund under Bulut, but to my eyes there are some things he's definitely got moving in the right direction so far.

he's trusted Robinson, Tanner Bagan and Colwill and they've all benefited from that.
as a side we are pressing better, attacking with more fluidity and purpose and getting more numbers forward when we do attack.
Players like Goutas and Ng rediscovering their form has also helped.
there are definitely big question marks over his substitutions though, not just in today's game but also Millwall.
it just about came off against Millwall, and backfired massively today.
if it was my decision I'd probably give him a couple more games to see if he can improve that aspect and continue the good progress we are making in other areas. I'm not saying give him a 5 year contract here and now, but in my opinion there's something worth looking at.

if we do decide to go for an experienced manager, there's every chance they could be just as bad as Bulut or any of his predecessors.

I would hope we can appoint a more experienced manager but I think we would all agree (even TLG maybe?) we would rather him in charge than bulut.

[Carl Dale's Mole]

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of course he wouldn't get the job under those circumstances, the same could probably be said for any caretaker manager though.
I was apprehensive about him before new started, as he had been part of the team that were so moribund under Bulut, but to my eyes there are some things he's definitely got moving in the right direction so far.

he's trusted Robinson, Tanner Bagan and Colwill and they've all benefited from that.
as a side we are pressing better, attacking with more fluidity and purpose and getting more numbers forward when we do attack.
Players like Goutas and Ng rediscovering their form has also helped.
there are definitely big question marks over his substitutions though, not just in today's game but also Millwall.
it just about came off against Millwall, and backfired massively today.
if it was my decision I'd probably give him a couple more games to see if he can improve that aspect and continue the good progress we are making in other areas. I'm not saying give him a 5 year contract here and now, but in my opinion there's something worth looking at.

if we do decide to go for an experienced manager, there's every chance they could be just as bad as Bulut or any of his predecessors.

If the criteria for getting the job is be better than Bulut then you could also give it to a loaf of bread.

It’s not rocket science, to bench the players that got the old manager sacked and start the likes of Robinson and Robertson that we’ve been crying out for since the beginning.

In my opinion he’s reaping the benefits of a Robinson / Colwill / Tanner attacking partnership that should have been in place since last year.

Should he get credit for picking them? No, what else is he gonna do? Start Kanga? Put Meite on the wing? Have Siopis play 90 mins?

All things that led to Bukit’s downfall.

Those subs/changes are inexcusable. Truly, truly terrible.

That’s where he’s able to make his mark and he did a in the worst possible way.

Completely threw that game.

[The Lone Gunman]

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of course he wouldn't get the job under those circumstances, the same could probably be said for any caretaker manager though.

What makes the Riza situation even more laughable is that he was brought in during the summer as an attacking coach and then got a temporary promotion after six games in which the side had scored just one goal.

I honestly have no idea who the club should appoint as manager now. It’s a real mess. But if it does end up being Riza (and I don’t think it will), it’ll only serve to further highlight how ridiculous things have become at the CCS under the Tan/Dalman/Choo regime.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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What makes the Riza situation even more laughable is that he was brought in during the summer as an attacking coach and then got a temporary promotion after six games in which the side had scored just one goal.

I honestly have no idea who the club should appoint as manager now. It’s a real mess. But if it does end up being Riza (and I don’t think it will), it’ll only serve to further highlight how ridiculous things have become at the CCS under the Tan/Dalman/Choo regime.

I sometimes wonder why managers are given a few games to prove themselves.

Take Riza. If he stays on and we win a game or two more, he'll probably be given the season to see how things work, on the basis of having a good start. It might work out, it might be a complete and abject failure, but then again, there's not often many guarantees regardless of who a new manager might be. My point is that the job could end up going to someone who found a short run of reasonable form and will be rewarded with a decent contract for a few weeks that were decent enough.

It's similar when managers are facing the boot, when they're given a few games to prove themselves. If they've been shit for a while, what's the point in giving them a few more games to see if they learn from their mistakes? I've never understood it. If a manager hasn't worked out, giving them a little more time to see if they can turn it around rarely works.

[Crisp White Lines]

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Everyone knows the owner and senior management team know nothing about effectively running a modern-day football club. It beggars belief that they ever managed to be successful in a wider business sense too.

Succession planning is a basic part of business management, yet these idiots stumble from one failure to the next: "oh, we just sacked the manager, what do we do now?"

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The scenario is that it is what it is

We don't have a progressive , modern football club , run professionally

So whilst it would be great if we did we just have to hope that if Riza does get the gig , we will be ok

Managers with far more experience and knowledge than our current caretaker make big errors from time to time

We just have to suck things up really because Tan and Dalman are unlikely to change

[fingers]

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All things that led to Bukit’s downfall.

Those subs/changes are inexcusable. Truly, truly terrible.

That’s where he’s able to make his mark and he did a in the worst possible way.

Completely threw that game.

The Bukit residence, the lady of the house speaking. How may I help?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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of course he wouldn't get the job under those circumstances, the same could probably be said for any caretaker manager though.
I was apprehensive about him before new started, as he had been part of the team that were so moribund under Bulut, but to my eyes there are some things he's definitely got moving in the right direction so far.

he's trusted Robinson, Tanner Bagan and Colwill and they've all benefited from that.
as a side we are pressing better, attacking with more fluidity and purpose and getting more numbers forward when we do attack.
Players like Goutas and Ng rediscovering their form has also helped.
there are definitely big question marks over his substitutions though, not just in today's game but also Millwall.
it just about came off against Millwall, and backfired massively today.
if it was my decision I'd probably give him a couple more games to see if he can improve that aspect and continue the good progress we are making in other areas. I'm not saying give him a 5 year contract here and now, but in my opinion there's something worth looking at.

if we do decide to go for an experienced manager, there's every chance they could be just as bad as Bulut or any of his predecessors.

We have definitely improved as team

I don't think he's a manager but a number 2 possibly ?

[Bald Barry Bastad]

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The substitutions against Bristol city could be put down to a lack of experience, which of course could be excused. But I think it's worse than that. I thought those substitutions showed a lack of intelligence and that's something that can't be fixed.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The substitutions against Bristol city could be put down to a lack of experience, which of course could be excused. But I think it's worse than that. I thought those substitutions showed a lack of intelligence and that's something that can't be fixed.

So when an experienced and intelligent manager like Mad Mick puts 5 centre backs on the field what's that an example of ?