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[North Cardiff Blue]

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of course he wouldn't get the job under those circumstances, the same could probably be said for any caretaker manager though.
I was apprehensive about him before new started, as he had been part of the team that were so moribund under Bulut, but to my eyes there are some things he's definitely got moving in the right direction so far.

he's trusted Robinson, Tanner Bagan and Colwill and they've all benefited from that.
as a side we are pressing better, attacking with more fluidity and purpose and getting more numbers forward when we do attack.
Players like Goutas and Ng rediscovering their form has also helped.
there are definitely big question marks over his substitutions though, not just in today's game but also Millwall.
it just about came off against Millwall, and backfired massively today.
if it was my decision I'd probably give him a couple more games to see if he can improve that aspect and continue the good progress we are making in other areas. I'm not saying give him a 5 year contract here and now, but in my opinion there's something worth looking at.

if we do decide to go for an experienced manager, there's every chance they could be just as bad as Bulut or any of his predecessors.

Players were always going to do their best when Bulut left, Purse would have had the same lift, it is a reasonably good squad with a few gaps, and they were massively underperforming with Bulut.

We need an experienced Manager to continue the improvements.

I'll give him credit for showing any new potential Manager how bad Bulut was this season, how much better the squad is, and that a new Manager has a good squad to work with, and that its a good project.

[Rjk]

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What makes the Riza situation even more laughable is that he was brought in during the summer as an attacking coach and then got a temporary promotion after six games in which the side had scored just one goal.

I honestly have no idea who the club should appoint as manager now. It’s a real mess. But if it does end up being Riza (and I don’t think it will), it’ll only serve to further highlight how ridiculous things have become at the CCS under the Tan/Dalman/Choo regime.

I don't think it'll be Riza either, as they've been burned by going down that path with Morrison and especially Hudson. I think they want a "name".

you don't have to look far to see there are just as many pitfalls with 'proven' managers as there are with new ones though. and god knows who we would end up with.

For an admittedly all to brief period against Bristol, we played with a kind of swagger that I haven't seen from a Cardiff side in a long time, I think we would all like to see more of that. if Riza can consistently get that out of us then I'd be more than happy to see him get the job. if he has a couple more games and can't replicate it then I won't lose any sleep over him getting the sack.

likewise if there was a proven manager who you could guarantee would be successful here and play good attacking football I think everyone would be on board with getting them, including Vincent Tan - but who would that be? I can't think of anyone

[Bald Barry Bastad]

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So when an experienced and intelligent manager like Mad Mick puts 5 centre backs on the field what's that an example of ?

That's an example of a shite manager.

[PontBlue]

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This board probably would have had a meltdown if Kieran McKenna had chosen us instead of going on to join Ipswich.

There have been plenty of examples where the step up has worked and plenty where it hasn't. All we can do is judge the person who gets the gig based on results, performances and team selection.

Riza was doing well until his substitutions yesterday as we have improved game on game in the short time he's been caretaker.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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This board probably would have had a meltdown if Kieran McKenna had chosen us instead of going on to join Ipswich.

There have been plenty of examples where the step up has worked and plenty where it hasn't. All we can do is judge the person who gets the gig based on results, performances and team selection.

Riza was doing well until his substitutions yesterday as we have improved game on game in the short time he's been caretaker.

I think we can do better but some of our fans are like witchfinder generals , baying for blood

If he is given the job then that's the way it is

It's like a death metal festival on here at times

[The Lone Gunman]

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This board probably would have had a meltdown if Kieran McKenna had chosen us instead of going on to join Ipswich.

Assistant manager to Jose Mourinho at Manchester United. Assistant manager at Heybridge Swifts in the Isthmian League. Practically the same all things considered.

[Llandaff Blue]

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This board probably would have had a meltdown if Kieran McKenna had chosen us instead of going on to join Ipswich.

There have been plenty of examples where the step up has worked and plenty where it hasn't. All we can do is judge the person who gets the gig based on results, performances and team selection.

Riza was doing well until his substitutions yesterday as we have improved game on game in the short time he's been caretaker.

Mckenna before Ipswich had far more coaching experience than Riza does now. He’d worked at various academy’s before eventually managing Spurs and United’s u18 sides, then ended up as first team coach at United.

Riza is cut from the same cloth as Morison and Hudson, complete novices with limited coaching careers. Yesterday showed Riza’s capabilities, improved performance or not his subs weren’t acceptable and he’s arguably cost us the win and hopefully his chance at getting the job. We need better

[Father Dougal]

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So when an experienced and intelligent manager like Mad Mick puts 5 centre backs on the field what's that an example of ?

Has mick worked since?

Tells you all need to know.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Has mick worked since?

Tells you all need to know.

Indeed not

But he had a run with us when he couldn't put a foot wrong

And that's the point

[Hilts]

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Has mick worked since?

Tells you all need to know.

Yes. He managed Blackpool after us. I think he was relieved of duties there after losing to us.🤣

[Hilts]

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Indeed not

But he had a run with us when he couldn't put a foot wrong

And that's the point

Indeed yes - Blackpool.

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I can't believe people are even considering Riza, we've seen this so many times before. We're doing ok'ish so far under his control, if he gets the job then we might do ok for another game or two then we'll lose and he won't have an answer and we'll keep losing and we'll be back to square one with a terrible manager.

Now is not the time for a punt, now's the time to get a proper manager in

[PontBlue]

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I'm saying a far more experienced number 2 wouldn't be acceptable to a portion of our fanbase as they'd expect a name to be appointed so Riza stands no chance unless tan drags this out and results and performances continue to improve.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I can't believe people are even considering Riza, we've seen this so many times before. We're doing ok'ish so far under his control, if he gets the job then we might do ok for another game or two then we'll lose and he won't have an answer and we'll keep losing and we'll be back to square one with a terrible manager.

It smacks of desperation and a total lack of ambition.

In my opinion, a significant percentage of the club's fanbase are suffering from Stockholm syndrome under Tan's ownership. They're now happy to accept any old rubbish on the principle that 'it could be worse'. Ambition has exited stage left. It's all about treading water and being thankful for the smallest of mercies.

[JamesWales]

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It smacks of desperation and a total lack of ambition.

In my opinion, a significant percentage of the club's fanbase are suffering from Stockholm syndrome under Tan's ownership. They're now happy to accept any old rubbish on the principle that 'it could be worse'. Ambition has exited stage left. It's all about treading water and being thankful for the smallest of mercies.

Although I entirely agree with the above, I think it's natural that anyone in a caretaker role who does alright (so far) in that position should at least be considered for the role.