BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

[Father Dougal]

Re: BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

The trust have been around for what 16 years? I can't ever remember them issuing a statement specifically asking for someone not to be appointed before?

And they made that first person Aaron ramsey. Genius fair play.

[Hilts]

Re: BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

Who are the experienced League 1 managers who would meet the Trusts approval.?

I think we needed an experienced Championship manager last season to steer us to safety.

Well they missed that opportunity.

We now have to rebuild from the lower leagues. I'm not against an experienced manager but I'd rather a young ambitious manager who can get us up in a few seasons and when we do have a side who can compete again at the top.

Who are these experienced L1 managers? Those brothers who were at Lincoln? Steve Evans? Duff?

[Hilts]

Re: BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

The trust have been around for what 16 years? I can't ever remember them issuing a statement specifically asking for someone not to be appointed before?

And they made that first person Aaron ramsey. Genius fair play.

If we get Steve Evans or Michael Duff I'm blaming them.🤣

[Grangenders]

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Ipswich appointed an inexperienced manager in League 1 and things worked out pretty well for them. I’d rather go down that route than appoint Ian Holloway.

[Father Dougal]

Re: BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

Who are the experienced League 1 managers who would meet the Trusts approval.?

I think we needed an experienced Championship manager last season to steer us to safety.

Well they missed that opportunity.

We now have to rebuild from the lower leagues. I'm not against an experienced manager but I'd rather a young ambitious manager who can get us up in a few seasons and when we do have a side who can compete again at the top.

Who are these experienced L1 managers? Those brothers who were at Lincoln? Steve Evans? Duff?

Birmingham have just got promoted with over 100 points in league 1. Their manager? Had never managed anyone before last August.

Guess the trust would be against someone like that also? Joking aside they are clueless.

The problem with riza wasn't experience!!! He didn't just need some time to develop!

He should never ever have been anywhere near the job and will never be anywhere near managing at this level or anywhere near ever again. Same as hudson trollope and morison who also won't be. It's not experience that was the issue.

[Tuerto]

Re: BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

And ramseys period in charge being "ultimately unsuccessful"?!

Any need for that?! 2 draws in 2 games and at the very least hasnt made things worse. Why add "ultimately unsuccessful" in the context of the last 10 years or so for 2 undefeated games under ramsey!

Yup, that's a shitty thing to say, not that i'm defending Ramsey in this, i have no loyalty to him or any of the players, coaching taff etc, they can all go as far as i'm concerned.

[Nobody's Rep]

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I’m not disagreeing with going at Tan, Dalman and Choo with both barrels, just wondering if it might have been better to wait until, say, Tuesday to see if there was any response from the club to the relegation. Im not sure there’s a right or wrong answer to it because I’m sure there would be those who would be critical if the Trust had decided to hold fire for a day or two.

Good article by Glen Johnson I thought.

Maybe wrong but not sure I have seen that type of tone before from Glen Williams or anyone else at WOL for that matter and if that's the case whilst I didn't disagree with anything he says might have been better doing an article like that sooner

For me personally I want to know that the "leadership" gets it and is starting to plan already as they have a head start of a week on anyone else threatened with relegation and hope they use it to the best advantage - not convinced they will and as we all know it's the hope that kills you

[Hilts]

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Ipswich appointed an inexperienced manager in League 1 and things worked out pretty well for them. I’d rather go down that route than appoint Ian Holloway.

I'm sure Holloway will apply.

Gareth Ainsworth , Steve Cotterill. L1 experience to satisfy the Trust?

[The Lone Gunman]

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Birmingham have just got promoted with over 100 points in league 1. Their manager? Had never managed anyone before last August.

The fact that you'd never heard of him doesn't mean he wasn't qualified for the job.

He'd been assistant manager to Brendan Rodgers at Celtic and at Leicester in the Premier League.

[Dorcus]

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This paragraph is ridiculous and surely they will edit. What on earth are they on about?

"We thank Aaron Ramsey for stepping into an ultimately unsuccessful position as caretaker manager for the last three games of the season. However, we strongly believe that for the next season in League One we need an experienced manager at that level, possibly with Aaron playing a part in an assistant role to pick up experience (similar to Craig Bellamy under Vincent Kompany at Burnley and Anderlecht)."

Ok so the trust have specifically said ramsey should support someone else like bellamy did at anderlecht.

Well guess what? Kompany was 34 when he became anderlecht manager. the same age as ramsey is now. Kompany is only 39 now ffs!

It's literally the worst example they could possibly have used and made themselves look total idiots whoever wrote that. Clueless even.

I can't see too much wrong with that; it's factual. In fact what they go on to say in relation to Bellamy and Kompany makes a whole lot of sense. There's no slur, merely pointing to Tan and Co's experiment ultimately proving unsuccessful, which it certainly was.

[Father Dougal]

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The fact that you'd never heard of him doesn't mean he wasn't qualified for the job.

He'd been assistant manager to Brendan Rodgers at Celtic and at Leicester in the Premier League.

Who said I hadn't heard of him?

[The Lone Gunman]

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Who said I hadn't heard of him?

Apologies, I thought the tone of your post suggested you hadn't.

If you had, you'd have know he was well qualified for a job at League One level - indeed, he's exactly the sort of appointment a forward-thinking club at that level would be looking at, similar to McKenna while Ipswich bagged him.

[Father Dougal]

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I can't see too much wrong with that; it's factual. In fact what they go on to say in relation to Bellamy and Kompany makes a whole lot of sense. There's no slur, merely pointing to Tan and Co's experiment ultimately proving unsuccessful, which it certainly was.

Um the fact kompany was 34 the same age ramsey is now and hadn't even been a coach anywhere?

And he was the guy bellamy got his experience under?

On that logic we should be looking at someone like bellamy was then to get their experience supporting ramsey as manager now?

[Father Dougal]

Re: BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

Apologies, I thought the tone of your post suggested you hadn't.

If you had, you'd have know he was well qualified for a job at League One level - indeed, he's exactly the sort of appointment a forward-thinking club at that level would be looking at, similar to McKenna while Ipswich bagged him.

No the trust specifically said they strongly believe we have to appoint someone with league 1 experience. Which would have ruled out chris davies and mckenna.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

No the trust specifically said they strongly believe we have to appoint someone with league 1 experience. Which would have ruled out chris davies and mckenna.

The Trust reps foolishly keep shooting themselves in the foot. I wish I could claim back the countless hours I spent helping to set the bloody thing up.