BBC, WOL and Supporters Trust

[Father Dougal]

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The Trust reps foolishly keep shooting themselves in the foot. I wish I could claim back the countless hours I spent helping to set the bloody thing up.

I just have no idea at all why they have felt the need to comment specifically on their criteria for the next manager 18 hours or so after relegation confirmed.

As we all know it's not the issue anyway. Whoever is appointed/lumbered with it- unless other huge changes it will be more of the same. Even if they did get their dream and we appointed ian Holloway.

[Enoch Mort]

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I'm not as exercised as most seem to be about the managerial statement. It might have been better if it had not been mentioned at all but it is an important issue and it may well be dealt with by the owner who has proved himself to be more "clueless" than us suffering fans. Careful consideration needs to go in to the next managerial appointment with appropriate experience a key factor but not cheapness or even sentimentality. Quite who is going to provide that advice to the owner - who knows ? The key part of the position the Trust has taken is that, in terms of relegation and the way the Club is run, all roads lead to Vincent Tan. It is likely that he is going nowhere until the Sala case is resolved so, in the meantime, he needs to change his ways big time. TOBW mentioned the timing of this release. I think that its a case of being damned if you do and damned if you don't. If the Trust was silent initially they would have got stick for that. So, what happens next ? I think they are right to ask our absentee owner to come to Cardiff and front up to fans about the way he runs the Club and what changes he is going to make. Will it happen ? I would be very surprised if it did. If a post relegation meeting does take place he will probably send his lapdog Ken Choo. The reaction from the Club will be interesting. I would imagine our owner does not react well to criticism.

[PontBlue]

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Choo needs to go first and we need to appoint a full time CEO with knowledge of running a football club and a director of football who can sort out the playing side of the club and another full time director to run the other aspects of the club. I have less issue with Dalman as I think he's often as frustrated as us but doesn't have the funds to buy the club and run it himself.

This all needs to happen quickly as we need a total revamp of management, coaching, conditioning, medical and player scouting and recruitment.

[Father Dougal]

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I'm not as exercised as most seem to be about the managerial statement. It might have been better if it had not been mentioned at all but it is an important issue and it may well be dealt with by the owner who has proved himself to be more "clueless" than us suffering fans. Careful consideration needs to go in to the next managerial appointment with appropriate experience a key factor but not cheapness or even sentimentality. Quite who is going to provide that advice to the owner - who knows ? The key part of the position the Trust has taken is that, in terms of relegation and the way the Club is run, all roads lead to Vincent Tan. It is likely that he is going nowhere until the Sala case is resolved so, in the meantime, he needs to change his ways big time. TOBW mentioned the timing of this release. I think that its a case of being damned if you do and damned if you don't. If the Trust was silent initially they would have got stick for that. So, what happens next ? I think they are right to ask our absentee owner to come to Cardiff and front up to fans about the way he runs the Club and what changes he is going to make. Will it happen ? I would be very surprised if it did. If a post relegation meeting does take place he will probably send his lapdog Ken Choo. The reaction from the Club will be interesting. I would imagine our owner does not react well to criticism.

As the trust admit in the statement all that will happen once again is dalman and choo will say everything the trust have said is correct and they agree but tan doesn't. And that's the end of that.

Who knows if its true or not but that's what has been happening for years and years.

[adz-a32]

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This paragraph is ridiculous and surely they will edit. What on earth are they on about?

"We thank Aaron Ramsey for stepping into an ultimately unsuccessful position as caretaker manager for the last three games of the season. However, we strongly believe that for the next season in League One we need an experienced manager at that level, possibly with Aaron playing a part in an assistant role to pick up experience (similar to Craig Bellamy under Vincent Kompany at Burnley and Anderlecht)."

Ok so the trust have specifically said ramsey should support someone else like bellamy did at anderlecht.

Well guess what? Kompany was 34 when he became anderlecht manager. the same age as ramsey is now. Kompany is only 39 now ffs!

It's literally the worst example they could possibly have used and made themselves look total idiots whoever wrote that. Clueless even.

Arteta and Pep would be the perfect example to give - fits the model the board were trying with managerial appointments

[the other bob wilson]

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I’m not disagreeing with going at Tan, Dalman and Choo with both barrels, just wondering if it might have been better to wait until, say, Tuesday to see if there was any response from the club to the relegation. Im not sure there’s a right or wrong answer to it because I’m sure there would be those who would be critical if the Trust had decided to hold fire for a day or two.

Good article by Glen Johnson I thought.

Apologies to Glen, his surname is Williams isn’t it

[Father Dougal]

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Apologies to Glen, his surname is Williams isn’t it

Yes you were probably thinking of Glenn Johnson the Australian striker who played for us in 1995/96 season.

Easy mistake to make as he's not an easy person to forget!

[StraightOuttaCanton]

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The Trust reps foolishly keep shooting themselves in the foot. I wish I could claim back the countless hours I spent helping to set the bloody thing up.

The barrel of the gun must have been blocked on this one and they ended up shooting themselves in the head. Good for you that you put the time into setting something like that up as I wouldn’t have invested a second of my life into that. You clearly must have thought it would make a difference… 🤦🏼
Unfortunately I’ve always viewed these type of things as self important ‘neighbourhood watches’. Tan very obviously has no human connection with Cardiff City and I find it comical that these busybodies believe that by them demanding and having an urgent meeting with him that they could have an influence😂. The sycophantic line about his investment was awful and I fully agree with FD about the Ramsey comments. I expect those on a messageboard but not by a body that are allegedly supposed to represent the fan base. What a load of old bollocks.

[2b2bdoo]

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Disagree with the trust specifically mentioning ramsey and not giving him the job. Seems a step too far especially as I can't remember them specifically saying not to give it to riza or hudson or morison the way they have done with ramsey.

I get the point about needing league 1 experience but as someone else said mckenna at Ipswich had never been a number 1 before. I know he was ole number 2 though but still.

I agree with the main body just not sure why they've added the extra paragraphs and ramsey is the only one they've named not to give the job to- they didn't mention purse ramasut etc?

Agree, I don’t think it’s their place tbh.

There will be some experienced managers I wouldn’t want and someone good young managers I would consider and vise versa.

[Father Dougal]

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Also to complete my rant.

You don't go about it finding a number 2 like ramsey and then appointing a number 1 for him to learn from. It puts everyone in an impossible position.

The new manager if it's not ramsey should have carte blanche to have the structure and team they want around them. If they want ramsey that's fine but it has to be their choice. Last thing for them would be being told you have to have ramsey as your assistant and he's going to learn from you- which is literally what the trust are asking for.

Likewise if it is ramsey he has to choose the coaches and structure he wants not be stuck with the same clowns.

[Jamsarnie]

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Back to the original topic… why haven’t Dalman and Choo resigned yet?

Are they really that tangled up in the Sala / Nantes case that they have to continue in their respective roles?

I’m absolutely sick of them both! Pair of fcuking idiots!

[Father Dougal]

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Back to the original topic… why haven’t Dalman and Choo resigned yet?

Are they really that tangled up in the Sala / Nantes case that they have to continue in their respective roles?

I’m absolutely sick of them both! Pair of fcuking idiots!

Because by their own admission they have zero power anyway?

Not sure if I believe them but that's what they consistently claim.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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And ramseys period in charge being "ultimately unsuccessful"?!

Any need for that?! 2 draws in 2 games and at the very least hasnt made things worse. Why add "ultimately unsuccessful" in the context of the last 10 years or so for 2 undefeated games under ramsey!

We looked a lot better, though, and any Manager would need a month to correct Riza's scattergun and pray approach.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Back to the original topic… why haven’t Dalman and Choo resigned yet?

Are they really that tangled up in the Sala / Nantes case that they have to continue in their respective roles?

I’m absolutely sick of them both! Pair of fcuking idiots!

Agreed, but are they just the mouthpiece, with no power?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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The fact that you'd never heard of him doesn't mean he wasn't qualified for the job.

He'd been assistant manager to Brendan Rodgers at Celtic and at Leicester in the Premier League.

I didn't know much about him, but he does have a lot of experience, a lot with analysis, which might have come in useful. He's probably got a good set-up under him, not like us with a few youth coaches.

In 2004, Davies began studying for his UEFA coaching licences while also attending Loughborough University, where he obtained a first-class honours degree in Sport Science.[6] He worked as a youth coach at Leicester City and also coached in the United States and New Zealand.[7] While in New Zealand, Davies was a youth coach at Hawke's Bay United, where he worked under Jonathan and Bobby Gould.[7]

In 2010, aged 25, Davies was recruited as an assistant to Brendan Rodgers at Swansea City.[8] During his time at Swansea, Davies specialised in opposition analysis and tactics.[7] In his first season, Swansea were promoted to the Premier League.[9] After Swansea secured a second season in the Premier League, Davies was offered a coaching position with the club's reserve team.[7]

Davies moved with Rodgers to Liverpool in June 2012 as the club's head of opposition analysis.[4][10] In his second season, Liverpool finished second in the Premier League behind champions Manchester City.[11] Davies left the club in October 2015 when Rodgers was replaced by Jürgen Klopp.[12] During his time at Liverpool, Davies completed his UEFA Pro Licence, earning the qualification in 2015.[5]

Following six months at Reading as a first-team coach in 2016,[13][14] Davies joined Rodgers as his assistant manager at Scottish Premiership club Celtic.[15] In their first season, Celtic won the domestic treble for only the fourth time in the club's history.[16][17] Under Rodgers and Davies, Celtic broke their 100-year-old record for successive domestic games unbeaten, going 69 matches without defeat.[18] They won the treble again in Davies's second season.[7]

In February 2019, Davies moved with Rodgers to Leicester City, again as his assistant manager.[19] They finished fifth in two consecutive seasons, missing out on UEFA Champions League qualification on the last day of both seasons, but won the 2021 FA Cup and the Community Shield.[7] Davies left the club with Rodgers in April 2023.[20]

On 27 June 2023, Davies was appointed senior assistant coach to Ange Postecoglou at Tottenham Hotspur.[21]

Managerial career
Birmingham City
On 6 June 2024, he departed Tottenham Hotspur in order to become the manager of Birmingham City. He signed a four-year contract with the newly relegated EFL League One club.[22]

Following an unbeaten month of thirteen points from five matches, Davies was named EFL League One Manager of the Month for February 2025 as Birmingham extended their lead at the top of the league.[23]

Coaching style
"Controlling the game with the ball will always be central to my philosophy but I want a degree of tactical flexibility to adapt to different opponents and different situations. I'm a pragmatic person, and I feel that transfers into my coaching."

—Davies on his coaching philosophy.[7]
During his early career as a youth coach, Davies used futsal coaching to improve the technical development of players, including their ball control and passing.[7] He then developed his tactical knowledge at Swansea and Liverpool, having worked in opposition analysis roles at both clubs.[24]

At Celtic and Leicester, Davies's job was to "lead training on a day-to-day basis, managing the other coaches and working closely with the sports science department".[7] His sessions included on-the-field training, as well as individual meetings with the players and video analysis.[24]

Davies's coaching style has primarily been influenced by Brendan Rodgers, having worked with Rodgers at several clubs throughout his career.[3][24] He also cites the work of Roberto Martínez and Paulo Sousa at Swansea, as well as the influence of Pep Guardiola on English football.[7]