Sio Stat

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Sio Stat

in the Championship games he actually played for us, Adams made an average of 4.71 tackles per game and won 3.53 per game
For us Siopis attempted 2.96 tackles per game and won 1.48 tackles per game.

Siopis is probably better at passing, but at the thing that they're both in the side to do, Adams is consistently more prolific and effective than Siopis, over many seasons actually.

Adams must be appalling with the ball then :hehe:

Both are not good players at this level. Siopis could get bullied and Adams can't play, at all. Neither can Sio, mind.

[the other bob wilson]

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No, you've compared a Greek International at Panathinaikos with a Derby almost-relegated run-of-the-mill midfielder. Siopis did ten times more for us than Adams did, apart from time on the physio table.

Yes, I said he had an easy life here, just training and getting himself fit. Rambo has had a similar year, but with more games, and he managed us for a bit.

I didn't say he was enjoying it, or that it's better than playing, I merely said it's nice work if you can get it.

Your last sentence makes no sense. Adams’ near year out injured was a subject you returned to time and again, your intention was clear and this season Adams has made you look a bit stupid. What good did Siopis playing in a Greek win at Wembley do us? He was struggling for starts in a team that would finish bottom of the table. He couldn’t improve us, but Adams, based on his tackles won figures, not to mention his six goals from central midfield, could have given us qualities we were seriously short of.

[Trigger]

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Was it part of last season where Siopis looked alright. I can't remember if i'm making even that up.

I don't think he'd have done any worse that what we did have to end the season with but I can't believe he would have improved anything. It got to the point where he just looked like one of the players had brought their son along to make up the numbers.

You can clearly be a diminutive figure in midfield and have influence on the match, even in a defensive role. Siopis however just couldn't, particularly this season.

I do think he's probably a better player than that given he does still get in the Greek team and similar to Goutas performances seem to have waned following the dismissal of Bulut.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Your last sentence makes no sense. Adams’ near year out injured was a subject you returned to time and again, your intention was clear and this season Adams has made you look a bit stupid. What good did Siopis playing in a Greek win at Wembley do us? He was struggling for starts in a team that would finish bottom of the table. He couldn’t improve us, but Adams, based on his tackles won figures, not to mention his six goals from central midfield, could have given us qualities we were seriously short of.

We had Rizo, he made good players look bad and bad players look terrible. Siopis was in a side that finished top half, Adams played for a bottom-of-the-league type team, but at the end with a decent Manager that kept him and them up.

If you think Adams is the answer, you are deluded. He was bombed straight out as he was a very limited player, who's just had one not too bad season.

[Rjk]

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Adams must be appalling with the ball then :hehe:

Both are not good players at this level. Siopis could get bullied and Adams can't play, at all. Neither can Sio, mind.

I would imagine that Derby fans have a very different opinion on Adams ability than Cardiff fans
their player of the season and the defensive stats he's posted this season are not just the highest this season, but head and shoulders clear of anyone else, and higher than in any previous season on record. he was producing double the numbers of tackles than the nearest Cardiff midfielder for instance, he's had a very good season doing just the things that we should have been better at if we wanted to fight our way out of a relegation battle.

[the other bob wilson]

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We had Rizo, he made good players look bad and bad players look terrible. Siopis was in a side that finished top half, Adams played for a bottom-of-the-league type team, but at the end with a decent Manager that kept him and them up.

If you think Adams is the answer, you are deluded. He was bombed straight out as he was a very limited player, who's just had one not too bad season.

All I’m saying is that I would have picked Adams over Siopis any day of the week in the season just ended.

You really need to see somebody about those blind spots of yours - just blame the manager if it’s a player you’re defending :hehe:

I wish we’d been a “bottom of the league type team” instead of the genuine article!

[The Lone Gunman]

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One is a well-thought-of (in Greece) International who recently beat England, and one had his best ever season in the Championship, which most on here describe as the weakest in years.

One of these players made 42 starts for the side that finished 19th in the Championship table, scoring 6 goals in the process. The other made 16 starts for the side that finished rock bottom of the Championship table, scoring 0 goals in the process.

One of these players started 13 Championship matches that were won by his team during 2024/25. The other started just 2 Championship matches that were won by his team during 2024/25.

One of these players was the fans and players’ player of the year at his club this season, and that club avoided relegation to League One. The other wasn’t, and his club didn’t.

Can you guess which one is which?

[North Cardiff Blue]

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One of these players made 42 starts for the side that finished 19th in the Championship table, scoring 6 goals in the process. The other made 16 starts for the side that finished rock bottom of the Championship table, scoring 0 goals in the process.

One of these players started 13 Championship matches that were won by his team during 2024/25. The other started just 2 Championship matches that were won by his team during 2024/25.

One of these players was the fans and players’ player of the year at his club this season, and that club avoided relegation to League One. The other wasn’t, and his club didn’t.

Can you guess which one is which?

The non-international, did we improve league positions when Sio left?

Were we above Derby when he was here?

He's not great, but he was better than Adams, playing in a disorganised team that changed every week, and he's played at higher levels than Adams.

[Rjk]

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The non-international, did we improve league positions when Sio left?

Were we above Derby when he was here?

He's not great, but he was better than Adams, playing in a disorganised team that changed every week, and he's played at higher levels than Adams.

he wasn't better than Adams this season

[jon1959]

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The non-international, did we improve league positions when Sio left?

Were we above Derby when he was here?

He's not great, but he was better than Adams, playing in a disorganised team that changed every week, and he's played at higher levels than Adams.

In the 2024-25 Championship Adams was much better than Sio.

He is clearly limited, but his strengths are just what we were missing.

You have to perform mental contortions and a willingness to ignore the numbers to conclude anything different.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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In the 2024-25 Championship Adams was much better than Sio.

He is clearly limited, but his strengths are just what we were missing.

You have to perform mental contortions and a willingness to ignore the numbers to conclude anything different.

We can have different opinions, from what I saw of him here, not much, he hardly played, he looked very limited. I've seen Sio have some good games, especially for Greece against England. That reminded me that a lot of our players are better than they have looked while playing for us over the last three or four seasons.

[The Lone Gunman]

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The non-international.....

Displaying your ignorance once more with that comment.

Adams is a Gambian international. Indeed, he's played international football more recently than Siopis.

You mention Siopis was a part of the Greece team that beat England, which is correct. But you neglected to mention he was also a part of the Greek sides that were heavily beaten at home by England and also beaten at home by Scotland.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Adams played for a bottom-of-the-league type team....

Is that the same Derby County who were allegedly really tough opponents during City's 'incredibly difficult' set of opening fixtures this season?

[The Lone Gunman]

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Adams played for a bottom-of-the-league type team...

Siopis played for a literally-bottom-of-the-league type team.

[Bobby Dandruff]

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One of these players made 42 starts for the side that finished 19th in the Championship table, scoring 6 goals in the process. The other made 16 starts for the side that finished rock bottom of the Championship table, scoring 0 goals in the process.

One of these players started 13 Championship matches that were won by his team during 2024/25. The other started just 2 Championship matches that were won by his team during 2024/25.

One of these players was the fans and players’ player of the year at his club this season, and that club avoided relegation to League One. The other wasn’t, and his club didn’t.

Can you guess which one is which?

I’m not a Sio apologists but this is a plainly stupid post.

One player has made 37 appearances for his country ranked 40th by FIFA and will play in the Champions League next season, and the other has played 26 times for his country who are ranked 126th.

Can you guess which one is which?