Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I admit I fall into the camp that says the performance on the pitch is 75-80% down to the ability of the players and that a good manager has limited opportunities with an un-changed squad. Having sat through 22 home games last season, there was little to separate the football from Bulut, Riza or even Ramsey. The squad that has been assembled over the past 3 seasons is woefully short of pace and athleticism, and is incapable of adapting to a more pragmatic, quicker, effective style of play. I'm presuming a couple of things, first our recruitment team of Patrick Deboys etc will continue to use their football experience [Cardiff Met.] to bring in new players, and secondly, our new manager will not be involved in the process. With that in mind, I can see nothing but frustration again next season as City regularly come up against sides who are quicker, stronger, more direct and more effective than us.. I live in hope.

[Trigger]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

Massive issues at the club beyond the manager, worryingly the minutes from that fab meeting look like nothing has changed beyond hiring some extra help for the recruitment process.

Long term we are destined to hit the same problems. However short term the right manager can bring things together and massively improve what we see on the pitch.

It will always be fleeting but it's something we have to get right. I'm not sure what else can be done regarding the bigger picture whilst tan is still here, it seems we are happy to bundle on.

An appointment with the sort of impact Warnock had though would at least give us some respite from the mundane and predictable.

I just have a feeling after all the talk of this process we are still going to give it to one of the lads.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

Massive issues at the club beyond the manager, worryingly the minutes from that fab meeting look like nothing has changed beyond hiring some extra help for the recruitment process.

Long term we are destined to hit the same problems. However short term the right manager can bring things together and massively improve what we see on the pitch.

It will always be fleeting but it's something we have to get right. I'm not sure what else can be done regarding the bigger picture whilst tan is still here, it seems we are happy to bundle on.

An appointment with the sort of impact Warnock had though would at least give us some respite from the mundane and predictable.

I just have a feeling after all the talk of this process we are still going to give it to one of the lads.

That's Ramsey then..

[Grangenders]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

I think whoever gets the job will have a similar brief to the one Russell Slade did - spend the next 2/3 years moving out those players on higher wages who don’t want to be here so that we can bring the overall costs down. Once we’ve then got a smaller / cheaper squad we can look for the next manager to start considering a stab at finishing in the top 6.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

I think whoever gets the job will have a similar brief to the one Russell Slade did - spend the next 2/3 years moving out those players on higher wages who don’t want to be here so that we can bring the overall costs down. Once we’ve then got a smaller / cheaper squad we can look for the next manager to start considering a stab at finishing in the top 6.

2/3 years treading water in League One, and then get a new manager in?

[Llandaff Blue]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

I think whoever gets the job will have a similar brief to the one Russell Slade did - spend the next 2/3 years moving out those players on higher wages who don’t want to be here so that we can bring the overall costs down. Once we’ve then got a smaller / cheaper squad we can look for the next manager to start considering a stab at finishing in the top 6.

What?

Our aim should be top 6 minimum next season, anything else is a failure.

[goats]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

2/3 years treading water in League One, and then get a new manager in?

That would be a success under this board…..

[bobh]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

2/3 years treading water in League One, and then get a new manager in?

More like -

2/3 years treading water in League One, and then sack the manager in the hope that a new one can escape the relegation spots...

[City123]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

I think whoever gets the job will have a similar brief to the one Russell Slade did - spend the next 2/3 years moving out those players on higher wages who don’t want to be here so that we can bring the overall costs down. Once we’ve then got a smaller / cheaper squad we can look for the next manager to start considering a stab at finishing in the top 6.

That won't be their brief, they'll be looking to bounce back up within a year or 2

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

What?

Our aim should be top 6 minimum next season, anything else is a failure.

It should be, but I think we'll do well to do that unless there's a major overhaul of this squad. Two teams far better than us -Luton and Plymouth will contest the top 2, Stockport, Leyton Orient, Bolton, Reading, Charlton, all better-equipped for league 1 than our current squad.

[Rjk]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

a good set piece coach would have made a huge difference last season

[Michael Morris]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

a good set piece coach would have made a huge difference last season

A good set piece taker would have helped as well.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

A good set piece taker would have helped as well.

You shouldn't need to teach a seasoned professional how to take a corner/freekick. We couldn't get the kicker to do his job, never mind how the receivers should try and position themselves.

It was shambolic!

[Hilts]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

And we used to be arguably the most dangerous set piece team in the league.

Joe Ralls can definitely deliver quality set pieces. Getting him on the pitch is another matter. We just were so physically weak and pathetic we went from a physically intimidating team to complete soft touches in a couple of seasons.

Also the tough physical players could actually pass it better than the garbage be brought in.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Re: Evatt, Buckingham, Edwards .... Will it make that much difference ?

And we used to be arguably the most dangerous set piece team in the league.

Joe Ralls can definitely deliver quality set pieces. Getting him on the pitch is another matter. We just were so physically weak and pathetic we went from a physically intimidating team to complete soft touches in a couple of seasons.

Also the tough physical players could actually pass it better than the garbage be brought in.

Ralls could be a bit inconsistent with his set-piece delivery.
Peter Whittingham on the other hand....