Goutas interview

[blue matt]

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He mentions difficulties with the local dialect, just like Burgstaller did a few weeks ago. Do we need to be recruiting an elocution coach?

Dai Hunt greeting the players as they arrive for Games

[LA Bluebird]

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How many of the players and staff that he worked with are from Kairdiff?

I doubt that he heard a Cardiff or South Wales accent very often.

It's really fecking weird, wonder if it's part of some onboarding deck that they give to foreign players or something for it to have been mentioned twice. Even the most Cardiffian doesn't have a strong accent or dialect compared to anywhere north of the Watford gap, and as noted our staff and players would be from all over the place.

[Wash DC Blue]

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https://youtu.be/jYXWzP-GuUc?si=7v9Rw-KJV_Fb-66C

[RichardM]

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https://youtu.be/jYXWzP-GuUc?si=7v9Rw-KJV_Fb-66C

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[Kitman]

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The bit about them feeling relaxed and not feeling any pressure is very concerning!

Seemingly the teams and manager thought we were too good to go down and would always pick up enough points

[Rjk]

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The bit about them feeling relaxed and not feeling any pressure is very concerning!

Seemingly the teams and manager thought we were too good to go down and would always pick up enough points

Yeah he clearly found it very strange - even from the fans there was very little pressure it seems.

[Rjk]

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The second half starts, a corner kick, I take a step back to make a jump, the opponent comes, hits me in the head, knocks me down.

I get up and immediately think about protesting.

Everything we're used to. But I turn around and see that none of my teammates are around to support me.

They're gone, they're not even paying attention to the situation."

And then I realize... 'Dimitris, welcome. Now join the dance and dance like they dance here'

I liked this passage - someone should show this to Daland.
I still think there's a player in there if he can adapt to the physicality of the league.

[llan bluebird]

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Yeah he clearly found it very strange - even from the fans there was very little pressure it seems.

Apathy has set in.

Malky, Warnock didn't need a threat from the owner to gee up the club, but they also ensured the right types were in that dressing room.
Data-driven recruitment misses the key ingredient, character. Plus, everyone has data-driven recruitment nowadays, we are so far behind, we may as well rip it out and go old school.

When i was a kid i used to look up to footballers as men, adults. But as a 57 year old they are kids/young men and they smelled weakness in their manager and took the mick. Its what happens in real life, why shouldn't it happen at a football club. In past years, though Bellers, Cowie, Taylor, Conway, Kev, McPhail, Peltier, Bamba, Morrison, Bennett, Gunnar, Ralls, Hudson, Turner run the dressing room.
We had Ralls and the ever so nice Ramsey and Chambers

And its still missing, we are going to have a bunch of kids. It looks like it gets coached out of them at the academy.

We sleptwalked into relegation in super slow motion and we all knew this was the year. I still haven't renewed, i will, but the enthusiasm has gone. I met up with my mates this week and we all complained that we only had three sessions pre and after the game last season, we lost that much interest.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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Yeah he clearly found it very strange - even from the fans there was very little pressure it seems.

Perhaps he was just pointing out the cultural differences but it's nonsense to think we didn't know we were in trouble and I imagine everyone in the club knew too. Watching the team submit every week helped with that. But just because fans tried to get behind the team or were philosophical or had a greater sense of perspective doesn't mean we were culpable.

And what if we did start throwing rotten fruit? Someone like Ryan Wintle would tell us all to calm down. The players and manager would say we all need to stick together.

This reminds me of another thing becoming more common in football - the waving of arms by players to get the crowd going. Oh are we not making enough effort? Are we losing/going down because of the atmosphere? No, the team were crap, Dimi.

Interesting interview, mind.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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The bit about them feeling relaxed and not feeling any pressure is very concerning!

Seemingly the teams and manager thought we were too good to go down and would always pick up enough points

The Manager was the problem, he kept taking the rap and not passing it down to the players. I've said all season they were getting an arm around the shoulder when they needed a hard kick up the arse.

Will BBM give them a hammering when they are constantly making mistakes and not closing down quickly enough? I doubt it somehow, we needed a junior Warnock type, Nathan Jones, then probably Evatt, followed by Buckie was what we needed.

[blue matt]

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The Manager was the problem, he kept taking the rap and not passing it down to the players. I've said all season they were getting an arm around the shoulder when they needed a hard kick up the arse.

Will BBM give them a hammering when they are constantly making mistakes and not closing down quickly enough? I doubt it somehow, we needed a junior Warnock type, Nathan Jones, then probably Evatt, followed by Buckie was what we needed.

the days of a kick up the arse are going, would professional footballers respond to that now ? ? I dont know

[jon1959]

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The Manager was the problem, he kept taking the rap and not passing it down to the players. I've said all season they were getting an arm around the shoulder when they needed a hard kick up the arse.

Will BBM give them a hammering when they are constantly making mistakes and not closing down quickly enough? I doubt it somehow, we needed a junior Warnock type, Nathan Jones, then probably Evatt, followed by Buckie was what we needed.

Buckie. Just how many baby names are you going to give to an out if work manager who is not Cardiff bound (allegedly)?

[the other bob wilson]

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The only players who can draw conclusions about how the fans perceived last season are Joe Ralls, possibly Perry Ng and perhaps the likes of Isaak Davies and Rubin Colwill. The rest of them haven’t been here long enough to understand or appreciate what it’s been like watching Cardiff City play for the last five seasons. This applies particularly to those supporters who rarely get to watch away games where I’d say that, generally speaking, we’ve done okay during the 2020s. At home though, it’s been miserable watching us play. I’m not going to repeat all the stats, they been posted on here before, but here’s one - in four of the past five seasons, we’ve lost more home games than we won and, in the other one we won ten and lost ten.
People call for protest marches and it seems like Goutas is saying the fans should have been harder on the players last season, but I would argue that a majority of the predominantly home support have been ground down, first by dull and ugly football which at least saw us winning pretty regularly to dull, losing football where you’d see the same mistakes being repeated time after time. Put all of that with chronic ineptitude in the Boardroom and from the owner and it’s led to support that has had its joy and enthusiasm reduced to the extent that apathy rules these days.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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The Manager was the problem, he kept taking the rap and not passing it down to the players. I've said all season they were getting an arm around the shoulder when they needed a hard kick up the arse.

Will BBM give them a hammering when they are constantly making mistakes and not closing down quickly enough? I doubt it somehow, we needed a junior Warnock type, Nathan Jones, then probably Evatt, followed by Buckie was what we needed.

He was a problem. He was by no means the only problem. We'd been circling the drain for 4 seasons.

[RichardM]

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The only players who can draw conclusions about how the fans perceived last season are Joe Ralls, possibly Perry Ng and perhaps the likes of Isaak Davies and Rubin Colwill. The rest of them haven’t been here long enough to understand or appreciate what it’s been like watching Cardiff City play for the last five seasons. This applies particularly to those supporters who rarely get to watch away games where I’d say that, generally speaking, we’ve done okay during the 2020s. At home though, it’s been miserable watching us play. I’m not going to repeat all the stats, they been posted on here before, but here’s one - in four of the past five seasons, we’ve lost more home games than we won and, in the other one we won ten and lost ten.
People call for protest marches and it seems like Goutas is saying the fans should have been harder on the players last season, but I would argue that a majority of the predominantly home support have been ground down, first by dull and ugly football which at least saw us winning pretty regularly to dull, losing football where you’d see the same mistakes being repeated time after time. Put all of that with chronic ineptitude in the Boardroom and from the owner and it’s led to support that has had its joy and enthusiasm reduced to the extent that apathy rules these days.

Well said.