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  • #31
    Re: Senedd election prediction

    Originally posted by Lord Dargavel View Post
    Although not worrying for everyone. The conservative voters won’t worry at all will they!
    Well as long as they don't get enough votes to run the country I couldn't give two fecks

    If they increase the amount of people that vote for them they will see it as a victory but as long as Labour get a decent leader they will be always spouting off from the sidelines

    Which is what Labour nationally needs to do , get rid of starmer

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    • #32
      Re: Senedd election prediction

      Originally posted by Lord Dargavel View Post
      What worries me more is somebody saying that a party need to get rid of their leaders. Doesn’t say much about the party does it?
      I don't care , drakeford has had his marching orders so its onwards and upwards

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      • #33
        Re: Senedd election prediction

        Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
        Close, but no cigar!!!!
        if Labour govern directly or with a coalition I don't care

        Nationally Labour should team up with the liberals so it makes sense to me

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        • #34
          Re: Senedd election prediction

          Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
          I voted about an hour or so ago and I had a chat with one of the tellers whom I know. She has been working in my local polling station for a number of years and said she has never seen it so busy, even in General Elections.
          She said the have had a queue all day albeit only 4 or 5 people but she has never ever seen a queue before and also that they normally use 1 ballot box and as we spoke they were currently on their third for the day.
          I know there is extra paper because of the Police commissioner vote but even so there seems to be more people than usual bothering to cast their votes.

          That cannot be a bad thing, but if it is mirrored across Wales who will benefit? That's the question?

          I would just add that there was a small queue when I voted when I went in and when I came out and that was close to 8 PM, most unusual.
          poor weather and a low turnout usually favours the conservatives but maybe the recent bounce in support for the tories has seen them come out

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          • #35
            Re: Senedd election prediction

            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            if Labour govern directly or with a coalition I don't care

            Nationally Labour should team up with the liberals so it makes sense to me
            Two things. firstly you were incorrect, and secondly it will be difficult for labour to team up with the liberals in Wales if they manage to lose their one and only seat.

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            • #36
              Re: Senedd election prediction

              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
              Very few

              Plaid offers a clear option , if independence was as strong as you and other nationalists want it to be , then the vote wouldn't be trailing behind the tories

              You are kidding yourself but carry on
              2 questions:

              1. Do you believe everyone who wants independence would only vote Plaid?

              2. Do you believe everyone who votes Plaid wants independence?

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              • #37
                Re: Senedd election prediction

                Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                Two things. firstly you were incorrect, and secondly it will be difficult for labour to team up with the liberals in Wales if they manage to lose their one and only seat.
                Two things , Labour if they win the majority of seats either rule outright or with a coalition . That's fine by me .

                Nationally is UK wide , as in general elections

                Even so the liberals seem a bust flush so I think a left of centre party to keep out the tories which the majority of the electorate want is the future

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                • #38
                  Re: Senedd election prediction

                  Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                  2 questions:

                  1. Do you believe everyone who wants independence would only vote Plaid?

                  2. Do you believe everyone who votes Plaid wants independence?
                  You're just trying to confuse now aren't you?

                  Bad Eric!!

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                  • #39
                    Re: Senedd election prediction

                    Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                    You're just trying to confuse now aren't you?

                    Bad Eric!!
                    Confusing Sludge isn't difficult at times. If Kate Humble was naked in her car on the back seat and there was a kebab on the bonnet, he wouldn't know what to do.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Senedd election prediction

                      Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                      2 questions:

                      1. Do you believe everyone who wants independence would only vote Plaid?

                      2. Do you believe everyone who votes Plaid wants independence?
                      generally

                      generally

                      Adam Price has been spouting on the TV for weeks asking people to vote plaid

                      You and your lot have their chance

                      If plaids vote increases then great , if they gain seats fantastic

                      If Plaid Cymru , the only true independence party at this election don't do really well then either all these polls about increasing support for independence are cobblers or the pro independence lot can't be bothered

                      The way to change things is to vote

                      If people can't be arsed to vote for an independence party in 2021 , when are they going to bother ?

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                      • #41
                        Re: Senedd election prediction

                        I’m actually surprised by the amount of people I know that have voted Plaid, including a number of lifetime Labour voters. Might be too early to have an impact this election though. Regardless of where you stand, a shake up can only benefit Welsh Politics.

                        My local place was saying they’ve had a a good turnout with youngsters too. I had to queue around 40 minutes.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Senedd election prediction

                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          generally

                          generally

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                          • #43
                            Re: Senedd election prediction

                            Originally posted by Bruce Parry View Post
                            I’m actually surprised by the amount of people I know that have voted Plaid, including a number of lifetime Labour voters. Might be too early to have an impact this election though. Regardless of where you stand, a shake up can only benefit Welsh Politics.

                            My local place was saying they’ve had a a good turnout with youngsters too. I had to queue around 40 minutes.
                            Plaid is the obvious choice for any left leaning voter disillusioned with Labour, that's the message I'm getting from friends of mine.

                            I know lots of people who still vote Labour but want independence, but Sludge won't have that.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Senedd election prediction

                              Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                              Plaid is the obvious choice for any left leaning voter disillusioned with Labour, that's the message I'm getting from friends of mine.

                              I know lots of people who still vote Labour but want independence, but Sludge won't have that.
                              We will see tomorrow if left leaning Labour voters have deserted Labour for plaid

                              Or the Labour vote has gone to the tories

                              If people want independence then why are they voting Labour and not plaid ?

                              They sound like crackpots

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                              • #45
                                Re: Senedd election prediction

                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                We will see tomorrow if left leaning Labour voters have deserted Labour for plaid

                                Or the Labour vote has gone to the tories

                                If people want independence then why are they voting Labour and not plaid ?

                                They sound like crackpots
                                Is it not because independence isn't an issue in this election and it is possible to support independence and vote for someone other than Plaid?

                                I also think it's too simplistic to suggest that Labour will only lose votes to the Tories (and hence Plaid don't pick up or lose voters accordingly).

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