FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

By historical standards that's not bad.

But by realistic standards, it’s not good.

On the plus side, a first cap tonight for Joe Rodent. *

(* Not my joke, I just saw it on Facebook.)

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

By historical standards that's not bad. Our most successful side that reached the semi finals of the Euros had a Championship full back in Chris Gunter and James Chester who rarely started for West Brom! They were both starters in that Welsh side as was Wayne Hennessey who wasn't getting much game time either.

Chester was an outstanding Championship centre back, and he walks into our side. Hennnessey played 29, 29 and 27 PL games in the 3 seasons either side of Euro 2016.

We are also crazy open, they don't get any help from the wingers. We are easy to play against, and we're punchless going forwards. It's the weakest group of players we've had for well over a decade.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

Probably, and Bellamy wont deviate from the way he sets out to play, he doesn't seem to react to scorelines or passages pf play. It will either make him or break him.

It's going to break him then, it's one thing to play like that in Nations League that are glorified friendlies and get some moral victories when we play bigger teams close, quite another to play like that in games that matter.

Just like his mentor Kompany at Burnley, playing that way when you don't have the players to do it is suicide. Maybe if he lucks into the Bayern job next he'll look like a tactical genius too.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

Chester was an outstanding Championship centre back, and he walks into our side. Hennnessey played 29, 29 and 27 PL games in the 3 seasons either side of Euro 2016.

We are also crazy open, they don't get any help from the wingers. We are easy to play against, and we're punchless going forwards. It's the weakest group of players we've had for well over a decade.

Yup, put those teams next to each other and you'd say maybe Neco Williams and Harry Wilson are anywhere close to starting for the 2016 team? The spine of the team is so much stronger in 2016 it's not even funny. Even if you somehow forget about a prime Bale and Ramsey who when fit were both world class players.

[Dave Blue]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

The group will pan out as expected. We could have predicted this a year ago. We haven’t the talent now to beat a team like Belgium but it’s taken 3 penalties to defeat us in those games.
We need a kind draw in the play offs to even have a sniff.

[Dave Blue]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

There was a total lack of checking your surroundings.

Just like their winner in the away game. Left side non existent nor marking in the box.

[Pearcey3]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

But by realistic standards, it’s not good.

On the plus side, a first cap tonight for Joe Rodent. *

(* Not my joke, I just saw it on Facebook.)

😆

[Tuerto]

Re: WALES v BELGIUM. Match thread

Us the rat entitled to a Welsh cap?

[City123]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

Yup, put those teams next to each other and you'd say maybe Neco Williams and Harry Wilson are anywhere close to starting for the 2016 team? The spine of the team is so much stronger in 2016 it's not even funny. Even if you somehow forget about a prime Bale and Ramsey who when fit were both world class players.

Williams certainly starts ahead of Gunter or Taylor.

I reckon Moore at his best would have started up top, could possibly make a case for Ampadu & Rodon too. Maybe even Connor Roberts over Gunter but that would be controversial

Wilson wouldn't get anywhere near starting as his competition would be Bale & Ramsey.

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Re: WALES v BELGIUM. Match thread

At least Kazakhstan took points off North Macedonia which means we can finish second if we win our last two games

We could have if they'd won.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

The group will pan out as expected. We could have predicted this a year ago. We haven’t the talent now to beat a team like Belgium but it’s taken 3 penalties to defeat us in those games.
We need a kind draw in the play offs to even have a sniff.

Remember when Bellamy said the performance in his first game, Turkey, was as bad as things would get? The truth is that we’re a worse team now than we were then. Furthermore, our defending has gone to pot. It’s all very well saying Bellamy wants to take these big teams on, but our forward players are not good or consistent enough to give such an approach a chance of succeeding with a defence as disorganised as ours is. We concede so many early goals against sides like Belgium and England that the game is over before it’s begun - we’re far too easy to play against.

[goats]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

The group will pan out as expected. We could have predicted this a year ago. We haven’t the talent now to beat a team like Belgium but it’s taken 3 penalties to defeat us in those games.
We need a kind draw in the play offs to even have a sniff.

Looking at the teams we might play I don’t have much hope with this team…..

[John Buchanan]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

Bellamy talks a good game but I'm not seeing it on the pitch.

I think he talks boll**ks to be honest. I like Craig, I think he is a good coach and I really hope he can turn it around. But he does talk boll**ks in his interviews.

[olderblue]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

I think he talks boll**ks to be honest. I like Craig, I think he is a good coach and I really hope he can turn it around. But he does talk boll**ks in his interviews.

If he thinks that Harris up front is the best option, he’s never going to make it as a good coach
Ben Davies getting turned inside out, Cabango poor, and Ampadu non existent in midfield

Meanwhile we watched as Moore spent around the best part of the second half running up and down the line waiting to come on???
Half time was the time for changes


While I’m on one, does every village in North Wales send its Man Utd supporting idiot down the big city for these games?
I think we had the worst one sat near us, what a muppet

[J R Hartley]

Re: FT: WALES 2 - 4 BELGIUM. Match thread

I think he talks boll**ks to be honest. I like Craig, I think he is a good coach and I really hope he can turn it around. But he does talk boll**ks in his interviews.

Hes getting more David Brent with every interview.

I think he must have gone to the same media training as Anthony Joshua.