We were all concerned when Sallech got injured but the false 9 set up seems to have made us even more fluid and more clinical . Had we become too predictable and should we stick with this system when Sallech is back ?
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Yesterday was the first time we've played a supposedly good team since Salech went down and we were able to dominate Luton the same way we dominated Rotherham and Barnsley. We've scored 12 goals in 4 games. Prior to that we hadn't scored 3 goals in a game since early December.Originally posted by Kerkyra Blue View PostWe were all concerned when Sallech got injured but the false 9 set up seems to have made us even more fluid and more clinical . Had we become too predictable and should we stick with this system when Sallech is back ?
It better to watch and the results are better. And I think being a student of Pep, it's what BBM wants. I think he'll stick with it.
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Originally posted by Kerkyra Blue View PostWe were all concerned when Sallech got injured but the false 9 set up seems to have made us even more fluid and more clinical . Had we become too predictable and should we stick with this system when Sallech is back ?
I wasn’t and some on here actually ridiculed me for suggesting Kellyman up front .
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The opinions on Salech are interesting. I've been an almost alone on here when doubting his effectiveness in this side, although his scoring record would contradict this if it were just down to numbers. Not surprisingly most of those who I go to the match with and others around me in the Ninian, all concur that we are better without him and have a lot more options up front.Originally posted by Kerkyra Blue View PostWe were all concerned when Sallech got injured but the false 9 set up seems to have made us even more fluid and more clinical . Had we become too predictable and should we stick with this system when Sallech is back ?
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This is an interesting observation/Theory. I don't know if i agree with it though, though in all honesty i've only watched about 5 games this season so i can't really have an opinion on any of the players this season. Fair play to you. you're brave for expressing that opinion on Salech, especially on here. How would you back it up, i would be interested to hear why you think what you do of Salech. Do you think that his presence detracts from other ways of playing, hinders players, dictates our style, makes us too rigid etc..?Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View PostThe opinions on Salech are interesting. I've been an almost alone on here when doubting his effectiveness in this side, although his scoring record would contradict this if it were just down to numbers. Not surprisingly most of those who I go to the match with and others around me in the Ninian, all concur that we are better without him and have a lot more options up front.
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It's a very small sample size without our leading scorer.
There will though be matches where perhaps the more mobile link up play would be better suited and others where that proper no.9 helps get us up the pitch.
It's shown we have options as Kellyman has also proven the ball can stick to him but I think it's a bit early to suggest it's flat out a better system than with Salech (who is no slouch either tbf)
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With the number of subs allowed now it’s become much more than a 11 man game. Like for like changes are fine if the game is going well and the system’s working but the option of plans B & C are crucial should things not be going to plan. I love the situation that we can now mix things up a bit, bringing on subs to pose completely different problems to the opposition. It really is a 15/16 man game nowadays.
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For me it's just his physicality. He's generally slow, and for someone 6'5" he doesn't get off the ground, and he isn't that good with the ball at his feet. Moves tend to end when he receives the ball. There will no doubt be games away from home when the likes of Kellyman would be lightweight and get bullied, so a Keiffer Moore, type would always be an asset. I think my ambivalence towards him has also been swayed by the over-the-top media comments, calling him the clubs 'crown jewel ' etc. If he comes back and bangs in another 10 goals good for him.Originally posted by Tuerto View PostThis is an interesting observation/Theory. I don't know if i agree with it though, though in all honesty i've only watched about 5 games this season so i can't really have an opinion on any of the players this season. Fair play to you. you're brave for expressing that opinion on Salech, especially on here. How would you back it up, i would be interested to hear why you think what you do of Salech. Do you think that his presence detracts from other ways of playing, hinders players, dictates our style, makes us too rigid etc..?
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Fair enough, you've clearly given it thought :thumbup: Be interesting to hear what others think.Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View PostFor me it's just his physicality. He's generally slow, and for someone 6'5" he doesn't get off the ground, and he isn't that good with the ball at his feet. Moves tend to end when he receives the ball. There will no doubt be games away from home when the likes of Kellyman would be lightweight and get bullied, so a Keiffer Moore, type would always be an asset. I think my ambivalence towards him has also been swayed by the over-the-top media comments, calling him the clubs 'crown jewel ' etc. If he comes back and bangs in another 10 goals good for him.
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I've not seen BBW call Kellyman's role a false 9. So, is it? And what exactly does it mean? Would Kane be considered a false 9?Originally posted by Kerkyra Blue View PostWe were all concerned when Sallech got injured but the false 9 set up seems to have made us even more fluid and more clinical . Had we become too predictable and should we stick with this system when Sallech is back ?
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If my understanding of the position is correct, then Kane would definitely be considered a false 9, and arguably the best at it in the world.Originally posted by Garth Blue View PostI've not seen BBW call Kellyman's role a false 9. So, is it? And what exactly does it mean? Would Kane be considered a false 9?
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Interesting. So what does it mean? What is your understanding? It's a genuine question, because I'm genuinely uncertain that Kellyman is a false 9 as he leads the press.Originally posted by Tuerto View PostIf my understanding of the position is correct, then Kane would definitely be considered a false 9, and arguably the best at it in the world.
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