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It looks like some of our fans are still stuck in the past
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The Swansea chant is equally repulsive.Originally posted by PontBlue View Post -
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Hull fans are also in trouble for homophobic chanting against Chelsea. So what's that all about?Comment
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From reddit, not my wording, but that's why apparently.Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
During the 1960s and ’70s, Chelsea was a hub for LGBTQ+ people in the West End of London, boasting numerous pubs and bars where Gay people could freely be themselves in a homophobic cultural climate.
The borough’s LGBTQ+ scene meant it developed a reputation for being a location where ‘rent boys’ would look to meet men for sex – specifically around Earl’s Court, just minutes away from Chelsea FC’s Stamford Bridge football stadium.
Thus, the chant ‘Chelsea rent boy’ is effectively a homophobic insult that implies male Chelsea players and fans sell sex to other men.
Some of the motivation behind the chant has evolved in recent years, meaning that some people using the term in 2023 do not even realise its historically homophobic connotations.
After Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich brought Chelsea FC in 2003 and transformed the club’s fortunes by investing millions in the club, many opposition fans began to use the chant to mock Chelsea players for being ‘bought’. But regardless of the motivation, the homophobic undertone of using ‘rent boy’ as an insult to imply someone has paid sex with another man remains.
Here is there explaination why we are sheepshaggers.
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Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View PostFrom reddit, not my wording, but that's why apparently.
During the 1960s and ’70s, Chelsea was a hub for LGBTQ+ people in the West End of London, boasting numerous pubs and bars where Gay people could freely be themselves in a homophobic cultural climate.
The borough’s LGBTQ+ scene meant it developed a reputation for being a location where ‘rent boys’ would look to meet men for sex – specifically around Earl’s Court, just minutes away from Chelsea FC’s Stamford Bridge football stadium.
Thus, the chant ‘Chelsea rent boy’ is effectively a homophobic insult that implies male Chelsea players and fans sell sex to other men.
Some of the motivation behind the chant has evolved in recent years, meaning that some people using the term in 2023 do not even realise its historically homophobic connotations.
After Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich brought Chelsea FC in 2003 and transformed the club’s fortunes by investing millions in the club, many opposition fans began to use the chant to mock Chelsea players for being ‘bought’. But regardless of the motivation, the homophobic undertone of using ‘rent boy’ as an insult to imply someone has paid sex with another man remains.
Here is there explaination why we are sheepshaggers.
https://barneteye.blogspot.com/2013/...pshaggers.html
So is it ok to call fans of Welsh clubs "sheepshaggers"? - Yes, fine, but they can't all anyone anything else - It seems.
So is it ok to call fans of Welsh clubs "sheepshaggers"? My Welsh friend passed it off as all part and parcel of the experience of being a fan and was of the opinion that it is good humoured. Generally when a disaster befalls a team, their locality or a well known fan, the banter will cruelly highlight this. Many people unfamiliar with football read too much into it. What are football supporters really like? Last season we saw what happened when Bolton Wanderers player Fabrice Muamba had a heart attack on the pitch vs Spurs. When the seriousness of the situation became apparent, the banter stopped and gave way to genuine concern on all sides of the ground. Another example is the reaction of supporters from all clubs to the Hillsborough report.
I doubt any Cardiff City fan is offended by the chants. I would not be surprised if in years to come such chants are deemed "hate crimes" and banned. The children that the Cardiff fan noted at the Watford game could well grow up into a world where you are given a list of acceptable, government approved chants for matches. Maybe the fan of the future will merely be allowed to chant "The coffee bars in Cardiff are only slightly better than average" or "We all agree, that the referee would benefit from a refresher course".
I used to go to matches in the 1970's when the atmosphere at many matches was far more oppressive. Away standing sections were the scene of major fights during matches. A wrong turn on the way to a match could lead to a serious good hiding. Racist chanting was an everyday occurrence and admitting that you were a football fan in polite company was almost like holding up a sign saying "I'm a thug". In the 1980's we had a succession of terrible tragedies, Bradford, Hillsborough and Heysel being the worst. Football had to face up to its issues. The Sheepshagger chants are the last relic of those days, along with small gangs who travel the length of the country for punch ups outside the ground.
I daresay that the obscene chanting does put some people off going, especially those with children. When I consider the question is it OK to chant that Welsh fans are sheepshaggers, I honestly don't know the answer. It doesn't offend me. I doubt it offends the Welsh fans and I doubt that 95% of the crowd gave it a second thought. The atmosphere would have been far less entertaining without it. But then there is the fact that at the end of the day it is an extremely thin end of a very fat wedge. Logically there is no difference between that and any other form of racist abuse. The fact that no one in the crowd seriously thinks that residents of a major city such as Cardiff spend their evenings shagging sheep and it is all banter is irrelevent.
So in a logical, sensible world, we'd ban all such chanting. And the world will become a very dull and sterile place.Comment
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Games gone.
I'm fairly certain no rent boys were offended at the time.Comment
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You really have to be brain dead or moronic to get involved in these kinda chants.Comment
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Chelsea have played 3 EFL Clubs this season , Hull , Lincoln and Cardiff . All have been charged with the same offence. All had a sellout crowd .
Would not be surprised so that the only come to big games lot caused this.Comment
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The Hymns ‘n’ Arias, Swansea thing is a permanent stain on our club. Stupid, disgusting piece of shite.Comment
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Definitely.Originally posted by splott parker View Post
I hate it, especially when we're not even playing the jacks.Comment
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How is it homophobic? At what point does it state a dislike for gays?Comment
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I'd ban any chavvie brain dead moron who chants it.Originally posted by Dave Blue View PostComment
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explain how chanting "Chelsea Rent boys" infers that the singer has a general dislike of gays and lesbians?Originally posted by ToTaL ITK View PostComment
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