Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

[goats]

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I agree, time was Giggs supporters could point to his medal collection as proof of being the better of the two, but I heard Nathan Blake reading out what Bale had won at Real Madrid and it no longer applies - he's won four Champions League winners medals and with at least of them, he had a major influence in deciding the outcome of the Final. Given Bale's attitude to his home country as well, he has to be, possibly, the best Wales player ever and definitely above Giggs.

An overhead kick goal no less….incredible really.

[Hilts]

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Giggs v Bale. Both world class players.

I think at his absolute best Bale with his power and pace was the more complete player hes even brilliant in the air.

If it comes to early career the younger Giggs was a far better player than the younger version of Bale.

The older version of Giggs is also better than the older Bale.

There is no way at 30 there would be talk of Giggs going to China.

Bale at his absolute best was almost unplayable. I think at his best he edges it.

Giggs though throughout his career and longevity was a better player at different ages.

Off the pitch its not a discussion.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Excluding Internationals, when he retired at 31 Giggs had played 672 'league matches'.
At 31 Bales has played 377.

Those stats represent 15yr periods for both players, so Giggs has played on average nearly 20 more games a season than Bale.

[Hilts]

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Excluding Internationals, when he retired at 31 Giggs had played 672 'league matches'.
At 31 Bales has played 377.

Those stats represent 15yr periods for both players, so Giggs has played on average nearly 20 more games a season than Bale.

Giggs retired at 40. Your 20 games a season more is way off.

[Cleve van Leef]

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Playing devils advocate, would you say the same about Craig Bellamy?

Has Bellamy abused women? Nothing has been said or written regarding that, he supposedly bullied youngsters, but that was brought against him apparently by parent who didn’t like his son being dropped from the team. Nothing actually proved.

[lardy]

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Excluding Internationals, when he retired at 31 Giggs had played 672 'league matches'.
At 31 Bales has played 377.

Those stats represent 15yr periods for both players, so Giggs has played on average nearly 20 more games a season than Bale.

Giggs was born in 1973, and turned 31 in November of 04/05. By the end 03/4, from adding up on wikipedia, he had played 415 league games. Add on maybe 15 for those few months and that's only a difference of about three games a season.

[J R Hartley]

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Has Bellamy abused women? Nothing has been said or written regarding that, he supposedly bullied youngsters, but that was brought against him apparently by parent who didn’t like his son being dropped from the team. Nothing actually proved.

What about taking a golf club to a fellow professionals kneecaps? I suppose that’s ok because the victim was a man?

[William Treseder]

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What about taking a golf club to a fellow professionals kneecaps? I suppose that’s ok because the victim was a man?

As good as Bellamy and Giggs were, they are both nasty little ****ers!

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Giggs has done so well for Wales but he’s ruined it being a **** of a human being

He should be loved like the other Wales managers before him but he’s totally spoilt it for himself, and if I’m honest for me as a fan.

I held my nose for a time after the Rhodri affair, some people deserve second chances but it’s obviously his true colours.

[blue matt]

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There is no way at 30 there would be talk of Giggs going to China.

You are right, Fergie would never have allowed it :hehe: unless of course it was in some money-bags invitational game

[goats]

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Excluding Internationals, when he retired at 31 Giggs had played 672 'league matches'.
At 31 Bales has played 377.

Those stats represent 15yr periods for both players, so Giggs has played on average nearly 20 more games a season than Bale.

Giggs never really suffered any major injuries though did he?

[J R Hartley]

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Craig Bellamy 78 caps
Dean Saunders 75 caps
Ian Rush 73 caps
Mark Hughes 72 caps

Does the same apply to these also?

Ramsey has just 65 caps in 13 years. That could also be argued as pathetic when comparing to Gunter. Both spent a similar period playing for their country.

Ramsey’s availability for Wales, and in particular friendlies, has been shocking but in typical hypocritical fashion Cardiff fans turn a blind eye to this.

[goats]

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Giggs has done so well for Wales but he’s ruined it being a **** of a human being

He should be loved like the other Wales managers before him but he’s totally spoilt it for himself, and if I’m honest for me as a fan.

I held my nose for a time after the Rhodri affair, some people deserve second chances but it’s obviously his true colours.

Glad your not on the jury….he is guilty already then? No smoke without fire but let’s just wait and see eh? I’ve known a few crazy bitches in my time who liked to get lairy and violent when pissed up

[J R Hartley]

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Giggs never really suffered any major injuries though did he?

Giggs had loads of problems with his hamstrings.

[life on mars]

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Danny Wilson was always a sombre, unsmiling character, whenever I saw him working the doors (okay, perhaps understandable in that profession) and he looked exactly the same whenever 'relaxing' over a pint down the docks too. He always seemed 'on edge', almost waiting for something to happen.

Wilson used to beat Gigg's mother, which is why he later disowned his father.
They say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

that was my point