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  • #91
    Re: Racists

    Originally posted by adz-a32 View Post
    But the slavery of American Americans still have modern day consequences...

    Someone is missing the point, as usual...
    Pavlovs dogs.

    It wasn't me who first raised the point so you're criticising the wrong person.

    And I'm well aware the concept of slavery resonates far more in the USA, where the constitution crumbled under the weight of its own contradictions within 80 years of drafting

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    • #92
      Re: Racists

      Originally posted by Feedback View Post
      Thats all of us then.
      Not sure. What was the latest generation of your family to be enslaved?

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      • #93
        Re: Racists

        Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
        Not sure. What was the latest generation of your family to be enslaved?
        I meant that at some point all of our ancestors are likely to have been enslaved at some point.

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        • #94
          Re: Racists

          Originally posted by Feedback View Post
          I meant that at some point all of our ancestors are likely to have been enslaved at some point.
          And I meant the recency of our ancestors enslavement is likely to have a greater impact on their view of the impact of slavery on their cultural lives.

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          • #95
            Re: Racists

            Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
            And I meant the recency of our ancestors enslavement is likely to have a greater impact on their view of the impact of slavery on their cultural lives.
            Of course. How many do you know have had ancestors within say 6 generations enslaved?

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            • #96
              Re: Racists

              Originally posted by adz-a32 View Post
              But the slavery of American Americans still have modern day consequences...

              Someone is missing the point, as usual...
              you mean as opposed to non-american americans?

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              • #97
                Re: Racists

                Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                Of course. How many do you know have had ancestors within say 6 generations enslaved?
                Me none. Given the American Civil War was 160 years ago I guess its a tricky answer for most people. Yet those generations of people still have that as a reference point. Do you think that it's because their "freedom" didn't quite work out as they hoped whilst your ancestors enslavement by the Vikings or whoever has wafted away?

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                • #98
                  Re: Racists

                  Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                  Me none. Given the American Civil War was 160 years ago I guess its a tricky answer for most people. Yet those generations of people still have that as a reference point. Do you think that it's because their "freedom" didn't quite work out as they hoped whilst your ancestors enslavement by the Vikings or whoever has wafted away?
                  Bizarre you reference the US civil war which is 6-8 generations ago, yet in living memory we have had whole populations being enslaved elsewhere on the planet.

                  What is so special about the US civil war?

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                  • #99
                    Re: Racists

                    Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                    Bizarre you reference the US civil war which is 6-8 generations ago, yet in living memory we have had whole populations being enslaved elsewhere on the planet.

                    What is so special about the US civil war?
                    You gave me this challenge:

                    Of course. How many do you know have had ancestors within say 6 generations enslaved?

                    The six generations fitted (bizarrrely)just the other side of your narrative. I mentioned the Soviets and the Nazis in my earlier posts. Who are the other populations in living memory enslaved elsewhere on the planet that you have previously shown some human sympathy for?

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                    • Re: Racists

                      Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                      You gave me this challenge:

                      Of course. How many do you know have had ancestors within say 6 generations enslaved?

                      The six generations fitted (bizarrrely)just the other side of your narrative. I mentioned the Soviets and the Nazis in my earlier posts. Who are the other populations in living memory enslaved elsewhere on the planet that you have previously shown some human sympathy for?
                      With estimates of 36-48m people worldwide currently enslaved, today we have more slaves than any time in history.

                      There are far too many to mention, but recently we have seen Yazidi women enslaved, it's common place in Mauritania, and prevalent throughout sub saharan Africa.

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                      • Re: Racists

                        Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                        With estimates of 36-48m people worldwide currently enslaved, today we have more slaves than any time in history.

                        There are far too many to mention, but recently we have seen Yazidi women enslaved, it's common place in Mauritania, and prevalent throughout sub saharan Africa.
                        Feel your pain.

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                        • Re: Racists

                          Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                          Feel your pain.
                          I have no idea what you are trying yo say.

                          Anyway, I'm not sure what slavery has got to do with racism, as throughout history, the majority of slavery has been about enslaving their own or neighbouring people and not those from a foreign land or continent

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                          • Re: Racists

                            Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                            I have no idea what you are trying yo say.

                            Anyway, I'm not sure what slavery has got to do with racism, as throughout history, the majority of slavery has been about enslaving their own or neighbouring people and not those from a foreign land or continent
                            You think that the majority of enslavement has been about doing it to their own people?

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                            • Re: Racists

                              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                              You think that the majority of enslavement has been about doing it to their own people?
                              Yes, let's take the African slave trade as an example. The slaves were bought by European traders who shipped them to the New World. Who did the Europeans buy the slaves from? Clue: it wasn't other Europeans.

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                              • Re: Racists

                                Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                                Yes, let's take the African slave trade as an example. The slaves were bought by European traders who shipped them to the New World. Who did the Europeans buy the slaves from? Clue: it wasn't other Europeans.
                                You have this idea in your head that just because there was a history of enslavement on the African continent that they did it to their own people?

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