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  • #61
    Re: Harry Wilson…………

    Originally posted by delmbox View Post
    Overwhelming evidence is building that it's you I'm afraid, not least because what dembethewarrior meant on that other thread is blindingly obvious to everyone but you
    He compared them.

    Nothing more to see here.

    Do you still think a player who has played for 5 out of 6 teams in the Championship or lower is definite Premier League quality?

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    • #62
      Re: Harry Wilson…………

      You're not taking this too well are you?

      You compared them and then denied comparing them while admitting you compared them. It's alright, Delmbox is with you.

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      • #63
        Re: Harry Wilson…………

        Zohore played and scored in one season in the Premier League.

        Is he Premier League quality?

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        • #64
          Re: Harry Wilson…………

          Originally posted by blue lewj View Post
          Zohore played and scored in one season in the Premier League.

          Is he Premier League quality?
          Er.... ...

          If the answer is 'no' you are not helping your own argument!

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          • #65
            Re: Harry Wilson…………

            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
            Er.... ...

            If the answer is 'no' you are not helping your own argument!
            Well he played as many seasons as Wilson has there and scored.
            He also has played the rest of his career at a lower level.

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            • #66
              Re: Harry Wilson…………

              Originally posted by blue lewj View Post
              Well he played as many seasons as Wilson has there and scored.
              He also has played the rest of his career at a lower level.
              You seem to be arguing that Premier League quality players will be found in the Premier League and that players who are not in that league are not Premier League quality players.

              You appear to argue that some players who have been in the top flight didn't deserve their place there based on 'quality' but not the flip side of that argument where because of price tag, personal choices, lack of vacancies in squads or a host of other reasons some Premier League quality players may be earning a living at a lower level.

              If Liverpool had accepted Burnley's offer of Ł12m plus Ł4m in add ons in September 2020 (they held out for Ł20m and the rest is history) would that have made Harry Wilson a Premier League quality player? Or would his other seasons in the Championship have counted against that judgement?

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              • #67
                Re: Harry Wilson…………

                Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                You seem to be arguing that Premier League quality players will be found in the Premier League and that players who are not in that league are not Premier League quality players.

                You appear to argue that some players who have been in the top flight didn't deserve their place there based on 'quality' but not the flip side of that argument where because of price tag, personal choices, lack of vacancies in squads or a host of other reasons some Premier League quality players may be earning a living at a lower level.

                If Liverpool had accepted Burnley's offer of Ł12m plus Ł4m in add ons in September 2020 (they held out for Ł20m and the rest is history) would that have made Harry Wilson a Premier League quality player? Or would his other seasons in the Championship have counted against that judgement?
                Yeah, but do you think that Wilson is a Premier League player

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                • #68
                  Re: Harry Wilson…………

                  Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                  You seem to be arguing that Premier League quality players will be found in the Premier League and that players who are not in that league are not Premier League quality players.

                  You appear to argue that some players who have been in the top flight didn't deserve their place there based on 'quality' but not the flip side of that argument where because of price tag, personal choices, lack of vacancies in squads or a host of other reasons some Premier League quality players may be earning a living at a lower level.

                  If Liverpool had accepted Burnley's offer of Ł12m plus Ł4m in add ons in September 2020 (they held out for Ł20m and the rest is history) would that have made Harry Wilson a Premier League quality player? Or would his other seasons in the Championship have counted against that judgement?
                  I'm saying that Premier League quality players play in the Premier League regularly, yes.

                  I'm also saying that if Harry Wilson is undoubted Premier League quality then more than one PL club would have taken a gamble on him for more than one of his six moves.

                  That's all. Doesn't mean I'm right. That's my opinion.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Harry Wilson…………

                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    Yeah, but do you think that Wilson is a Premier League player
                    No idea.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Harry Wilson…………

                      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                      No idea.
                      I stopped replying to walk the dog and he carried on talking to himself

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                      • #71
                        Re: Harry Wilson…………

                        Originally posted by dembethewarrior View Post
                        I stopped replying to walk the dog and he carried on talking to himself
                        Let it go Dembe.

                        I thought you were smarting but this is another level.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Harry Wilson…………

                          You wouldn't give me a run down on how Bacuna has some similarities to Lionel Messi could you?

                          😄

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                          • #73
                            Re: Harry Wilson…………

                            You are comedy gold.

                            Remind me a lot of that Jack bastard that used to plague the hooligan story tellers board.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Harry Wilson…………

                              Wilson has made 82 (+9) appearances in the Championship compared to 20 (+11) in the Premier League. My feeling is his career stats will continue along similar lines. I'm pretty certain he'll play in the Premier League again at some stage, but I doubt he'll ever properly establish himself there. Can't quite put my finger on why, but I just don't think he's a top level player.

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                              • #75
                                Re: Harry Wilson…………

                                Originally posted by blue lewj View Post
                                You wouldn't give me a run down on how Bacuna has some similarities to Lionel Messi could you?

                                😄
                                Ones an attacking genius and ones a defensive midfielder. Even you couldn't swing that one.

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