Dalman and Choo have to go

[dml1954]

Re: Dalman and Choo have to go

The car salesmen have played a blinder. We’ve ended up weaker than last year following Murphy’s departure. We now have one winger at the football club when playing with a target man and one 19
Year old left back.

The club is literally going no where, there is no long term plan. The youth are being played out of necessity rather than a structural change to the clubs operations.

We’re left with a style for football which is awful, dwindling attendances, PR disasters and no business plan.

It’s a miss and a deserved management who are progressive and engaged

Dalman and Choo have been running this club for the last 10 years. They are hardly inexperienced therefore and certainly not car salesman as you have put it. Chill out for goodness sake. Plus, please explain how our attendances are ‘dwindling’.

[horse_face]

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Dalman and Choo have been running this club for the last 10 years. They are hardly inexperienced therefore and certainly not car salesman as you have put it. Chill out for goodness sake. Plus, please explain how our attendances are ‘dwindling’.

They have senior roles at HR Owen and both live in west London. They are inexperienced in football
Roles and refuse to supplement the boardroom with football men who can add expert direction.

I won’t chill out because the club is going no where. What is the strategic plan? Come on tell me? Sack a manger every two years?

We’re drifting in mid table going absolutely no where.

Attendances will drop, the football is painful to watch. It’s not an attractive proposition

[StraightOuttaCanton]

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Logic would indicated that loaning out with some of his salary paid lessens the impact of a player, not likely to play, during the final year of their contract.

Research however provides zero evidence he has gone anywhere.

EDIT:

Only sauce for said "gone to Preston" claim is a thread on **** board, with the person making the claim conveniently knowing a Preston fan.

HP?

[The Lone Gunman]

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Dalman and Choo have been running this club for the last 10 years.

Incorrect. Dalman was appointed as Chairman in July 2013 and Choo was appointed as CEO in November 2014.

[the other bob wilson]

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Dalman and Choo have been running this club for the last 10 years. They are hardly inexperienced therefore and certainly not car salesman as you have put it. Chill out for goodness sake. Plus, please explain how our attendances are ‘dwindling’.

You speak as if them being in their jobs for almost a decade is some sort of endorsement, I would have thought that given where we were when they arrived and where we are now, it's hardly that.

[goats]

Re: Dalman and Choo have to go

About 5 yards outside the penalty box, no options, turned back on himself and gave the ball to Ralls.

Lol….if we got 10% of the fee we paid back it would be a miracle. Looking at all the players who have gone our wage bill must have dropped quite a lot this season, which is to be expected.

[goats]

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They have senior roles at HR Owen and both live in west London. They are inexperienced in football
Roles and refuse to supplement the boardroom with football men who can add expert direction.

I won’t chill out because the club is going no where. What is the strategic plan? Come on tell me? Sack a manger every two years?

We’re drifting in mid table going absolutely no where.

Attendances will drop, the football is painful to watch. It’s not an attractive proposition

Ripe for a takeover though, which is what VT will want us to be.

[surge]

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Shouldn't we judge whether we're weaker based on contribution rather than profile of name and therefore it's something to assess in run-up to January and at end of the year rather than 5 games in?

We're definitely shorter in terms of senior attacking players but how much did Hoilett, Murphy, Whyte, Watters, Jonny Williams actually do for us on the pitch last year?

Expected difference from those missing being in terms of squad depth - what do we do in games where Giles needs a rest? - and buzz around club away from pitch. Bigger difference on the pitch being that Giles will probably fall in between contributions of Wilson and Ojo and we haven't yet got anyone to make up the difference.

Is saving a possible £1million worth it? They'll argue yes but that's an statement about previous year's mismanagement more than anything.

[dml1954]

Re: Dalman and Choo have to go

They have senior roles at HR Owen and both live in west London. They are inexperienced in football
Roles and refuse to supplement the boardroom with football men who can add expert direction.

I won’t chill out because the club is going no where. What is the strategic plan? Come on tell me? Sack a manger every two years?

We’re drifting in mid table going absolutely no where.

Attendances will drop, the football is painful to watch. It’s not an attractive proposition

So attendances aren't ‘dwindling’ - it is just your opinion on what could happen. Also, how can any team be ‘drifting in mid table’ after five games ? - ridiculous comment. The strategic plan is to bring through a number of young players, who are showing great promise, from the academy and under 23’s which is something many people have been crying out for, for many years. To be self sufficient with players should be the objective of every club outside the elite. Choo and Dalman have been running a successful top six championship side for a number of years and to say they are inexperienced at doing it is rubbish.

[FungoFurore]

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Slightly OT but as discussing Dalman, has anybody ever ready Kleptopia? It's a book by Tom Burgis, in which Dalman features from his time working on the board of a dodgy Kazakhstan-based mining company called ENRC. Interesting read...

[Rjk]

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Just a suggestion - we could always recall Murphy !!

I'm not sure you can recall season long loans any more

[dml1954]

Re: Dalman and Choo have to go

Incorrect. Dalman was appointed as Chairman in July 2013 and Choo was appointed as CEO in November 2014.

Mr know all and pedantic, strikes again. Bravo. Dalman joined the club as a board member in 2012 by the way, so you should check your sources a bit better.

[dml1954]

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I'm not sure you can recall season long loans any more

Giles is on a season long loan to us from Wolves, with a recall clause in January. This is standard apparently.

[Rjk]

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Lol….if we got 10% of the fee we paid back it would be a miracle. Looking at all the players who have gone our wage bill must have dropped quite a lot this season, which is to be expected.

has it dropped by £35 million though?

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Dalman and Choo have to go

Dalman joined the club as a board member in 2012 by the way, so you should check your sources a bit better.

I'm aware of that. However, he didn't become the Emperor's chief stooge until July 2013.

Are we now in 2022?