Where do we go from here?

[surge]

Re: Where do we go from here?

I don't see how anyone can watch today's 90 minutes and think we're changing into a more progressive passing side, if anything we're becoming even more long ball!

My point has been that often the 90minutes is the last thing to change and reflects positive moves that have already been made off-the-pitch. There are signs that positive moves are happening away from the pitch.

I don't expect too many changes to the 90 minutes this season, but I can't understand how anyone on the board (the one headed up by Dalman or this message board) can watch us today and think there isn't need to change.

[Forest Green Bluebird]

Re: Where do we go from here?

We are throwing kids into the mix as a cost cutting measure and labelling it 'bringing through youth' like it is some well thought out plan. Problem being these kids try to play football then hit a first team and manager that actively encourages getting rid of the ball as quickly as possible and has under the last three manager including Mick.

Jason Perry included this point in his rant on the radio earlier.

The academy / under-23s have got used to the Steve Morrison style of play. Being promoted into a team playing in a completely different manner is hopefully not going to harm their careers going forward.

He went on to criticise the shortcomings of those who give out lengthy contracts to players who arguably have not deserved them. Unsure whether MM is on a 3-year contract.

[City123]

Re: Where do we go from here?

We are throwing kids into the mix as a cost cutting measure and labelling it 'bringing through youth' like it is some well thought out plan. Problem being these kids try to play football then hit a first team and manager that actively encourages getting rid of the ball as quickly as possible and has under the last three manager including Mick.

Jason Perry included this point in his rant on the radio earlier.

The academy / under-23s have got used to the Steve Morrison style of play. Being promoted into a team playing in a completely different manner is hopefully not going to harm their careers going forward.

He went on to criticise the shortcomings of those who give out lengthy contracts to players who arguably have not deserved them. Unsure whether MM is on a 3-year contract.

2 year deal for Mick I think. Loads of contracts expire this summer though, perfect time to bring someone new in

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Where do we go from here?

Where do we go from here ? In footballing terms nowhere fast. Our squad has degraded to an extent where all the clumsy, slow, footballers available have been found a home in south east Wales. Apart from drop down a division or 2, aka Coventry where completely re-building is possible but at extreme risk of staying there, all City can do is chip away one position at a time being careful not to make the situation on the pitch even worse.
We're precariously perched on a tightrope where too much tinkering in the wrong place or too quickly could see us slide rapidly towards the lower reaches of the Championship. In footballing terms we're just existing..

[billy.ronson]

Re: Where do we go from here?

Getting the line up @2pm , you knew what we were in for ...no pace in the team , no natural width with a converted midfielder and centre back at wing back. A workmanike midfield then Harris and Bacuna to try to get forward when they could to support Moore off a long ball hoping for a set piece. Bournemouth werent just a footballing team, they had strength and height too (Moore won very little yesterday and they nearly always picked up 2nd ball)on their team and so it proved to be. In our manager's own words post match "we set ourselves up to frustrate Bournemouth and it worked for 65 minutes ..." this is the formula for the season especially the next month of games playing some of the fancied teams!
the ambition is to not go down , let the high earners go , get free signings and hope the youth we have are good enough with the caveat that should they do well a decent offer may come in and we make some money .....understandable as Tan said change to blue and the club has to be self sufficient, he hasn't deviaited from that . People just have to decide if that is enough to make them want to pay to go and watch this season and hope a change if style is an option next season ....

[blue lewj]

Re: Where do we go from here?

What makes anybody think Mick can or will change style?

If he doesn't, and there was nothing yesterday to suggest he's seen the entertaining football light, then he will sign a load of new players to fit into a long ball system. That is then us stuck with it for another 2 years or so.

[surge]

Re: Where do we go from here?

It seems so weird to think that "greater focus on youth" can only be about cost-cutting or about implementing a strategy and not a bit of both.

There is clearly a desire to have a pathway from youth to first team now and small connection's between Bagan and Colwill - or the second Forest goal - is evidence of that but still some way to go.

Patience and support needed this season though. I mean, Birmingham and Huddersfield are in the process of changing styles but lost by multiple goals to sides in the relegation spots, Swansea are in the process but have picked up one win this season while Fulham and West Brom are expected by many to blow everyone away and yesterday picked a point collectively.

We can talk about whether Mick is right man for next season's task towards the end of this season but time to recognise i) we're very slowly going through a process of change and ii) every side this year is going to have at least one really frustrating day.

We should also probably recognise that Derby are in the worst position in the league (they have 8 players on the books for next season, 5 under the age of 22 and desperately needing to sell) but they had a large supportive crowd yesterday. We as fans have a role to play as well.