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  • #46
    Re: Ryan Wintle

    Originally posted by life on mars View Post
    I'd rather a different option than Vaulks .



    Wintle is very good , thought he had his best game Tuesday, love the way he gets about his business with no fuss , swift passing, he can go unnoticed as he does the simple things very well and quietly, bit like the mighty McPhail.
    He did the swivel around in the spot thing host like McPhail yesterday and in fact he’s reminding me of him.

    Only difference is Wintle is a bit quicker, but maybe hasn’t got the killer pass McPhail has.

    However he’s excellent defensively and his ball retention is good too. Think although Vaulks has done pretty well since he’s come back in,Ralls is a far more capable player and reads the game so much better too. Balance looks good with Doyle, Ralls & Wintle.

    Tough choices coming up for Morison

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    • #47
      Re: Ryan Wintle

      Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
      Hes good at what he does but hes no Mcphail. Mcphail could dictate the tempo of the game and had more strings to his bow than Wintle.
      Hopefully he'll get a run of games with Ralls alongside him.

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      • #48
        Re: Ryan Wintle

        Originally posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
        Hopefully he'll get a run of games with Ralls alongside him.
        I was hoping to see a ralls, Wintle and Colwill at some point, possibly once we are definitely safe from relegation he'll start to explore more things

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        • #49
          Re: Ryan Wintle

          Originally posted by Rjk View Post
          I was hoping to see a ralls, Wintle and Colwill at some point, possibly once we are definitely safe from relegation he'll start to explore more things
          Same here, before we got Doyle.

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          • #50
            Re: Ryan Wintle

            Originally posted by Rjk View Post
            I was hoping to see a ralls, Wintle and Colwill at some point, possibly once we are definitely safe from relegation he'll start to explore more things
            Colwill seems our most natural replacement for Doyle

            I think if we're going to persist with a 3 man midfield (we probably should) then Colwill definitely needs to be given some games there to see if he can do it. Realistically we'll be reliant on him to a certain extent next season

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            • #51
              Re: Ryan Wintle

              Originally posted by City123 View Post
              Colwill seems our most natural replacement for Doyle

              I think if we're going to persist with a 3 man midfield (we probably should) then Colwill definitely needs to be given some games there to see if he can do it. Realistically we'll be reliant on him to a certain extent next season
              Not to be pedantic, but it wouldn't be a 3 man midfield with Colwill at CAM behind the strikers.

              Disclaimer I am not targeting you for an argument just pointing something out 👀

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              • #52
                Re: Ryan Wintle

                Originally posted by City123 View Post
                Colwill seems our most natural replacement for Doyle

                I think if we're going to persist with a 3 man midfield (we probably should) then Colwill definitely needs to be given some games there to see if he can do it. Realistically we'll be reliant on him to a certain extent next season
                Sam Bowen is more similar to Doyle than Colwill imo. Technically sound, time on the ball. I’m not sure where Colwill fits in this current system tbh and I don’t think Morison does either.

                We seem to have struck upon this big physcial man/ small fast man 2 up top combo which is working and Colwill doesn’t have the speed or the strength to play either of those positions.

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                • #53
                  Re: Ryan Wintle

                  Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                  Sam Bowen is more similar to Doyle than Colwill imo. Technically sound, time on the ball. I’m not sure where Colwill fits in this current system tbh and I don’t think Morison does either.

                  We seem to have struck upon this big physcial man/ small fast man 2 up top combo which is working and Colwill doesn’t have the speed or the strength to play either of those positions.
                  Another good point

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                  • #54
                    Re: Ryan Wintle

                    Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                    Sam Bowen is more similar to Doyle than Colwill imo. Technically sound, time on the ball. I’m not sure where Colwill fits in this current system tbh and I don’t think Morison does either.

                    We seem to have struck upon this big physcial man/ small fast man 2 up top combo which is working and Colwill doesn’t have the speed or the strength to play either of those positions.
                    earlier on he was playing a 3-4-2-1 or a 3-4-1-2, think we switched to 3-5-2 because the midfield was getting overrun, but we could go back to it if we feel that we have gotten solid enough through the personnel changes.
                    I think he'd have been a good option to come on against Blackpool, as their double pivot was making it hard for us to play through them, so having someone in-between the lines would be good

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                    • #55
                      Re: Ryan Wintle

                      Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                      Sam Bowen is more similar to Doyle than Colwill imo. Technically sound, time on the ball. I’m not sure where Colwill fits in this current system tbh and I don’t think Morison does either.

                      We seem to have struck upon this big physcial man/ small fast man 2 up top combo which is working and Colwill doesn’t have the speed or the strength to play either of those positions.
                      I agree, I don’t see a starting place for him in this set up.

                      I don’t think he offers enough in a middle 3 as it stands.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Ryan Wintle

                        Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                        earlier on he was playing a 3-4-2-1 or a 3-4-1-2, think we switched to 3-5-2 because the midfield was getting overrun, but we could go back to it if we feel that we have gotten solid enough through the personnel changes.
                        I think he'd have been a good option to come on against Blackpool, as their double pivot was making it hard for us to play through them, so having someone in-between the lines would be good
                        I think coming off the bench is best he can hope for at the moment. Morison said on Friday he was back in squad so it’s a mystery to me he wasn’t on the bench when both Pack AND King were on there.
                        Neither of those players are going to change the game, hence we only used 2 subs yesterday.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Ryan Wintle

                          Originally posted by dembethewarrior View Post
                          Not to be pedantic, but it wouldn't be a 3 man midfield with Colwill at CAM behind the strikers.

                          Disclaimer I am not targeting you for an argument just pointing something out 👀
                          That's not what I'm suggesting, I mean having him play where Doyle does

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                          • #58
                            Re: Ryan Wintle

                            Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                            Sam Bowen is more similar to Doyle than Colwill imo. Technically sound, time on the ball. I’m not sure where Colwill fits in this current system tbh and I don’t think Morison does either.

                            We seem to have struck upon this big physcial man/ small fast man 2 up top combo which is working and Colwill doesn’t have the speed or the strength to play either of those positions.
                            I agree with all that but it looks like Bowen won't be anywhere near the side for awhile for whatever reason

                            Colwill's a good footballer whose shown he can be effective at this level, we need to find a place for him considering how few players we'll have next season. He may become an option further forward as he matures due to his size but I think he could play in the role Doyle does, I think he's certainly a better option there than Vaulks/Pack, I also don't see why King seems to have jumped ahead of everyone

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                            • #59
                              Re: Ryan Wintle

                              Originally posted by City123 View Post
                              I agree with all that but it looks like Bowen won't be anywhere near the side for awhile for whatever reason

                              Colwill's a good footballer whose shown he can be effective at this level, we need to find a place for him considering how few players we'll have next season. He may become an option further forward as he matures due to his size but I think he could play in the role Doyle does, I think he's certainly a better option there than Vaulks/Pack, I also don't see why King seems to have jumped ahead of everyone
                              Been a big critic of Vaulks this season, but I think he’s done alright in the last two games. We miss Ralls when he doesn’t play, but his latest injury is concerning because he’s missed so many matches in the last couple of years.

                              I think we could accommodate Colwill in a midfield with Doyle and Wintle with the latter doing as well as he is currently, but Now we have wing backs capable of making an attacking impact, Morison seems to favour a more defensively minded midfield three.

                              The only reason I can think of for the bizarre decision not to make more use of Bowen I can come up with is that I can remember Mick McCarthy saying something along the lines that he needed to push himself more to realise he could be more than the sitting midfielder he was forthe under 23s, maybe Morison feels the same?

                              I struggle to see the logic though behind Morison’s thinking that Eli King offers the first team at this stage of his career than Bowen, or Keenan Patten, does - that’s not to knock King either who has done very well this season.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Ryan Wintle

                                Originally posted by City123 View Post
                                That's not what I'm suggesting, I mean having him play where Doyle does
                                I did think that. I don't think he's a CM personally but maybe he's young enough to adapt, hes got size in his favour I suppose and he can pass so maybe not such a big switch..

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