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  • #16
    Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    And another club’s fans decide that their manager has to go because he does not fit in with the team’s “identity”. Meanwhile, Cardiff fans have to put up with the crap that we’ve had to watch for close to a decade because of a myth that we’re happy to watch it.
    Is it a myth? I don’t remember too many complaints when the rebranded Cardiff City were winning the Championship under Malky Mackay or the club was winning promotion under Neil Warnock.

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    • #17
      Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

      Originally posted by delmbox View Post
      11 games, won almost half of them.

      He's probably not the long term answer for Spurs but Jesus Christ
      I read this as you proposing Jesus Christ as the next Spurs manager, albeit in a temporary role initially.

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      • #18
        Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        I read this as you proposing Jesus Christ as the next Spurs manager, albeit in a temporary role initially.
        :hehe:

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        • #19
          Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
          I read this as you proposing Jesus Christ as the next Spurs manager, albeit in a temporary role initially.
          Ticks a few boxes:hide:

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          • #20
            Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
            Is it a myth? I don’t remember too many complaints when the rebranded Cardiff City were winning the Championship under Malky Mackay or the club was winning promotion under Neil Warnock.
            We were like Eddie Newton described in 12/13, we were a big physical side, but had footballers as well e.g. Whitts, Bellamy, Mutch, Smith, Connolly and Kimbo. In 17/18, it was a bit different, but Bennett, Manga, Hoilett and Pilkington were all players who relied on ability as much, if not moreso than physique and power.

            Anyway, what I'm talking about is the line I've heard a few times about City fans being okay with the way we've played for ten years because it's what they expect from their team - I don't believe that's true, just because there weren't people calling for the manager's head because of the style of football as we got promoted doesn't mean that there weren't a pretty large number of fans from my experience who weren't keen on the way we played (especially in 17/18 when we'd been watching dreary long ball stuff for three or four seasons).

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            • #21
              Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              Anyway, what I'm talking about is the line I've heard a few times about City fans being okay with the way we've played for ten years because it's what they expect from their team - I don't believe that's true, just because there weren't people calling for the manager's head because of the style of football as we got promoted doesn't mean that there weren't a pretty large number of fans from my experience who weren't keen on the way we played (especially in 17/18 when we'd been watching dreary long ball stuff for three or four seasons).
              I think there’s a balance to be had. In my experience, City’s crowd has often been impatient and footballers like Steve McPhail and even the great Peter Whittingham regularly got stick because they were perceived by many as being too languid.

              I don’t think City’s support has ever strived for a genuine identity and I believe more fans have favoured a no-frills form of football than a patient, more technical approach. Of course, that’s not true for every fan by any means, but I think it’s true for the majority.

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              • #22
                Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                I read this as you proposing Jesus Christ as the next Spurs manager, albeit in a temporary role initially.
                Good going forward but very susceptible to crosses

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                • #23
                  Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                  Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                  I think there’s a balance to be had. In my experience, City’s crowd has often been impatient and footballers like Steve McPhail and even the great Peter Whittingham regularly got stick because they were perceived by many as being too languid.

                  I don’t think City’s support has ever strived for a genuine identity and I believe more fans have favoured a no-frills form of football than a patient, more technical approach. Of course, that’s not true for every fan by any means, but I think it’s true for the majority.
                  I concur. Whitt’s had plenty of detractors because he didn’t get about the pitch getting “stuck in” but the truth of the matter is if he had the engine and bite to go with his undoubted technical ability he wouldn’t have been anywhere near a Cardiff City championship side, he’d probably have 50 plus England caps.

                  I think it’s a generational thing. You’ve got your Sludges who are still stuck in the dungeon days, who don’t care for style as long as players give their all but that should be minimum requirement.

                  Hopefully our younger fans won’t put up with this hoofball we’ve been served up the last decade and demand change. We have certainly lost a generation of younger fans up here in the valleys because of the attractive way Swansea City played for the majority of their 7 years in the PL.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                    Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                    Good going forward but very susceptible to crosses
                    Would be a worrying appointment for Harry Cain too.

                    [Some kind of shit joke about Son can be inserted here too]

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                    • #25
                      Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      We were like Eddie Newton described in 12/13, we were a big physical side, but had footballers as well e.g. Whitts, Bellamy, Mutch, Smith, Connolly and Kimbo. In 17/18, it was a bit different, but Bennett, Manga, Hoilett and Pilkington were all players who relied on ability as much, if not moreso than physique and power.

                      Anyway, what I'm talking about is the line I've heard a few times about City fans being okay with the way we've played for ten years because it's what they expect from their team - I don't believe that's true, just because there weren't people calling for the manager's head because of the style of football as we got promoted doesn't mean that there weren't a pretty large number of fans from my experience who weren't keen on the way we played (especially in 17/18 when we'd been watching dreary long ball stuff for three or four seasons).
                      did you mean Connolly or Conway?

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                      • #26
                        Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                        Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                        did you mean Connolly or Conway?
                        Connolly, he was quite a cultured defender as you’d expect from someone who had an Arsenal background. However, I’d forgotten about Craig Conway, he was more of a workhorse type, but he had ability as well, as did Don Cowie, who was seen as a grafter here, but was considered a bit of a playmaker at Watford who took most of their set pieces.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                          Connolly, he was quite a cultured defender as you’d expect from someone who had an Arsenal background. However, I’d forgotten about Craig Conway, he was more of a workhorse type, but he had ability as well, as did Don Cowie, who was seen as a grafter here, but was considered a bit of a playmaker at Watford who took most of their set pieces.
                          You'll have Sludge dreaming of Willie Boland again.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                            Connolly, he was quite a cultured defender as you’d expect from someone who had an Arsenal background. However, I’d forgotten about Craig Conway, he was more of a workhorse type, but he had ability as well, as did Don Cowie, who was seen as a grafter here, but was considered a bit of a playmaker at Watford who took most of their set pieces.
                            I think the issue people had with Cowie was that Malky kept playing him wide where he worked hard but just wasn’t a winger. Looked far better centrally.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                              I think there’s a balance to be had. In my experience, City’s crowd has often been impatient and footballers like Steve McPhail and even the great Peter Whittingham regularly got stick because they were perceived by many as being too languid.

                              I don’t think City’s support has ever strived for a genuine identity and I believe more fans have favoured a no-frills form of football than a patient, more technical approach. Of course, that’s not true for every fan by any means, but I think it’s true for the majority.
                              I’ve often thought City have had a higher than average number of “get stuck in” merchants in their support, so I don’t think we’re too far apart. I think of myself as someone who would, ideally, have liked us to play a bit more football than your typical City fan, but I’ve never been into over passing it and I guess that is because of the sort of football I grew up watching at City. However, I go back to what Eddie Newton said - aggressive, physical football with that bit of quality and the latter is something that, increasingly, has been missing from City over the past decade.

                              What is encouraging is that there are a new generation coming through who offer something different - it was the nineteen year old Colwill and the twenty one year old Giles, albeit on loan, who were opening up the Stoke defence on Saturday.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Nuno available after Spurs sacking

                                Isn’t he a good mate of Warnock. ?!!! If my team won a game in that fashion, I would have forgot about the opposing manager, and ran straight onto the pitch aswell,

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