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  • #16
    Re: 3 from 5 to go down

    Originally posted by Hilts View Post
    The reason is outsiders see Cardiff as the bigger club and are making the same mistake as thinking clubs like Sunderland wouldnt go down.

    We are terrible. 1 point from 30.
    Reading would go below us with the points deduction and as Pearcey has said are in deep shit squad wise.

    There may be an element of "well Cardiff can't get much worse" with the bookies and realistically we can't unless we go without a win for the rest of the season. Despite going on a horrific run we haven't dropped into the bottom 3 and you've got to assume we won't be on this run forever

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    • #17
      Re: 3 from 5 to go down

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      Wednesday , Leeds , Forest , Sunderland , Sheffield United , Pompey , if we go down I would be cautious that we would bounce straight back
      I don't think that we would come straight back up with this squad of players. We are a league 1 outfit, player wise, at the moment. Massive problems that have been manifesting since Warnock's hit at the premier League. Not many were saying it at the time, but no team can play the way that we did and prosper or advance. It doesn't happen in the long term.

      A philosophy of anti football, making average players worse, stifling creativity and expression has finally hit home. Morison was trying with some of his tactics yesterday evening and I commend him for that, but there's no cohesion, everything is clunky, clapt out. We are in the shit and in my opinion it'll take 5 years to rebuild into something that is sustainable and easily managed due to long term thinking

      Shout out to Kieran Evans, got on the ball, looked to play and follow the pass, drew fouls etc. Well done to him.

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      • #18
        Re: 3 from 5 to go down

        Originally posted by Hilts View Post
        Yeah youve got a crap team because of injuries. Still beat us.

        We havent got anyone coming back from injuries to help us.

        Perhaps we will both go down with Derby.
        Yep I wouldn’t rule out both going down. Goes without saying I hope both stay up.

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        • #19
          Re: 3 from 5 to go down

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          Wednesday , Leeds , Forest , Sunderland , Sheffield United , Pompey , if we go down I would be cautious that we would bounce straight back
          We certainly won’t. Our team would become decimated overnight and any incomings will not only be free but on lower wages.
          I think we would struggle big time in division 1 which is why I am not in agreement with posters saying it might be good for the club

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          • #20
            Re: 3 from 5 to go down

            Originally posted by DubaiDai View Post
            We certainly won’t. Our team would become decimated overnight and any incomings will not only be free but on lower wages.
            I think we would struggle big time in division 1 which is why I am not in agreement with posters saying it might be good for the club
            I think those comments need to be taken with a pinch of salt

            Going down would be a disaster for Cardiff City

            We would be looking at gates of 12000 in a 32000 seater stadium

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            • #21
              Re: 3 from 5 to go down

              Originally posted by DubaiDai View Post
              We certainly won’t. Our team would become decimated overnight and any incomings will not only be free but on lower wages.
              I think we would struggle big time in division 1 which is why I am not in agreement with ?posters saying it might be good for the club
              There can't be many of them shirley.

              Whether we will see success or failure ultimately lies squarely on the shoulders of our owner and board.
              Unforunately the short termism we've seen this past few years suggests that it won't be the former.

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              • #22
                Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                Originally posted by DubaiDai View Post
                We certainly won’t. Our team would become decimated overnight and any incomings will not only be free but on lower wages.
                I think we would struggle big time in division 1 which is why I am not in agreement with posters saying it might be good for the club
                I agree, we go down and it could be sometime before we get back. We have to find a way to stay up, let’s be honest if Reading get a points deduction as well as Derby it will be a disgrace if we go down with them as that means we’ll have the worst team in the division even if we finish above those two. Derby would have a better points total than us right now without the deduction and they were decimated in the summer

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                • #23
                  Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                  If anyone honestly believes going down is good for your club they’re delusional

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                  • #24
                    Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                    Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                    If anyone honestly believes going down is good for your club they’re delusional
                    Agreed

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                    • #25
                      Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                      Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                      If anyone honestly believes going down is good for your club they’re delusional
                      Absolutely.

                      Just like those people who advocate administration as a simple 'points deduction for debts cancellation' trade off. It is a world of pain!

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                      • #26
                        Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                        Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                        If anyone honestly believes going down is good for your club they’re delusional
                        Absolutely correct. Relegation is a distinct possibility. Dalman stated at the meeting before the Boro game that no funds would be available in January. It is difficult to envisage that the recall of Wintle being enough to turn the season around on its own. So perhaps Tan will dig deep to fund other initiatives to avoid relegation be they loan or whatever. Perhaps relegation to League 1 might cause him to lose face which he might like to avoid.

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                        • #27
                          Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                          Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                          If anyone honestly believes going down is good for your club they’re delusional
                          Totally agree, some seem to think relegation means rebuilding and an instant better quality of football. If we don’t have any money in the championship then no doubt we will have even less in league one with lower gates, lower prize money etc I’d imagine further cut backs. We have to do everything we can to stay up.

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                          • #28
                            Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                            Originally posted by Enoch Mort View Post
                            Absolutely correct. Relegation is a distinct possibility. Dalman stated at the meeting before the Boro game that no funds would be available in January. It is difficult to envisage that the recall of Wintle being enough to turn the season around on its own. So perhaps Tan will dig deep to fund other initiatives to avoid relegation be they loan or whatever. Perhaps relegation to League 1 might cause him to lose face which he might like to avoid.
                            I'll keep saying it but it was easy to say that without the barrel of a L1 shotgun being pushed in his and Tan's face. If we're in the bottom 3 by January then there's some creative accounting to be done. It's not like the club doesn't have form in that area. It just makes zero sense to say this. I can't fathom it. Seriously, I don't believe.

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                            • #29
                              Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                              Originally posted by Enoch Mort View Post
                              Absolutely correct. Relegation is a distinct possibility. Dalman stated at the meeting before the Boro game that no funds would be available in January. It is difficult to envisage that the recall of Wintle being enough to turn the season around on its own. So perhaps Tan will dig deep to fund other initiatives to avoid relegation be they loan or whatever. Perhaps relegation to League 1 might cause him to lose face which he might like to avoid.
                              it's possible that we can't afford any more money in january without risking breaking FFP regulations in 2022

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                              • #30
                                Re: 3 from 5 to go down

                                We lost 8 in a row, literally the worst run in our entire 122 year history, and we’re still not in the relegation zone. Yet some people are already resigned to relegation? Madness imo.

                                Mick’s gone and in our first 2 games we already look a lot better. QPR and Stoke are both in the top 6 and aren’t the teams we need to be beating. It’s the games against the bottom 10 where we need to be picking up points and based on the last two performances, and with Morison given some time to work with the team, I can definitely see us winning some of those games.

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