Christmas

[blue matt]

Re: Christmas

personally, I love Christmas, it a few days off work, chance to see family and friends, eat " special food ", sure I can do all of that anytime, but its just easier over Christmas

The kids love it, everyone loves gifts

its all good in my book

[Canton Kev]

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my ex used to go crazy for Christmas and expect numerous very expensive presents. the new Mrs rjk is from a culture that doesn't celebrate Christmas. she'll tell me not to get her anything and she doesn't get me anything, and frankly it is a much better situation

Good way of doing it. Me and my partner spend at most 150 quid on eachother and it’s usually something we can enjoy together; fancy meal out, cocktail making course, weekend away, that sort of stuff. Chuck on top a book, some chocolates or nice bottle of something and that’s us sorted.
I love Christmas time personally, always have since I was a kid. Get together and catch up with family and friends and get cosy with some music or films on and stuff my face with food.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Why should the precise date matter anyway?

Nice throwaway comment by bobh BTW "but many people say that they messed things about for their own benefit" For what benefit might that be I wonder? And who are the many?

Indeed. Belief is more important than facts and evidence.

[dembethewarrior]

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personally, I love Christmas, it a few days off work, chance to see family and friends, eat " special food ", sure I can do all of that anytime, but its just easier over Christmas

The kids love it, everyone loves gifts

its all good in my book

2 weeks off, ideal time to spend with friends and family

[Tuerto]

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personally, I love Christmas, it a few days off work, chance to see family and friends, eat " special food ", sure I can do all of that anytime, but its just easier over Christmas

The kids love it, everyone loves gifts

its all good in my book

I'm not a massive fan of Christmas, but good for you, it is a few days off to hang about and take it easy.

[Tuerto]

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Indeed. Belief is more important than facts and evidence.

It is to some people. You're the opposite.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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You could spend 1,500'ish or get them for nothing on the NHS.

The NHS only do battery operated ones , no good for a confused elderly person

[dembethewarrior]

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By people I presume you mean most people?

I can't be arsed for this.

Have a nice life.

[Gofer Blue]

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Indeed. Belief is more important than facts and evidence.

Ah, so the references to Tiberius and Pontius Pilate (which would date the crucifixion to around 30AD) by the Roman historian Tacitus would not count as independent evidence in your opinion then? It's a shame that you had to resort to such a belittling comment. I know most of the posters on this MB would love to be able to prove that Jesus never even existed but somehow he inconveniently just won't go away will he!

[Gofer Blue]

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I can't be arsed for this.

Have a nice life.

And you too

BTW I was just pointing out that yes, most people (but not all) don't even pretend Christmas is about Jesus or religion anymore.

[Des Parrot]

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It’s all about a couple of weeks respite at the end of a manic year. I love Christmas as do all of my family. I shut down my laptop, forget work for 2 weeks (3 this year) & just immerse myself in the relaxation of the festivities. We even go to the carol concert in Gloucester cathedral, not for religious purposes but just for the singalong and remembrance of primary school days six decades ago.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Ah, so the references to Tiberius and Pontius Pilate (which would date the crucifixion to around 30AD) by the Roman historian Tacitus would not count as independent evidence in your opinion then? It's a shame that you had to resort to such a belittling comment. I know most of the posters on this MB would love to be able to prove that Jesus never even existed but somehow he inconveniently just won't go away will he!

I never suggested that Jesus didn't exist, old fruit. It's just significant that fine detail about his life is so scant that two of the three major branches of Abrahamism do not consider him to have been the son of God.

[lardy]

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my ex used to go crazy for Christmas and expect numerous very expensive presents. the new Mrs rjk is from a culture that doesn't celebrate Christmas. she'll tell me not to get her anything and she doesn't get me anything, and frankly it is a much better situation

Mrs lardys family doesn't celebrate Christmas but she goes mental with presents, so I appear to have drawn two short straws compared to you.

[lardy]

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People trapped in meaningless man-made traditions which have zilch to do with the birth of Christ. I agree with you.
All I would add is this; children like facts - tell them this is NOT the time of year that Christ was born and that it is an official birthday - just like the Queen has an official birthday which isn't her actual birthday.
Also, now that we have plenty of excellent star charting software available (much of it free online) that we can actually look back and see what was seen in the sky in the years and months leading up to the actual event, which all tie in perfectly with each of the 9 Bible references to the 'star' that was seen before His birth.

This video > THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM < provides all the detail which you will need, and those with limited time can start from 31 minutes into the presentation. NB: All the details in the video can be verified on any decent astronomy programme such as this >> Stellarium.

The adhesive side of a postage stamp will also provide all the detail I need

[Croesy Blue]

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personally, I love Christmas, it a few days off work, chance to see family and friends, eat " special food ", sure I can do all of that anytime, but its just easier over Christmas

The kids love it, everyone loves gifts

its all good in my book

I agree I absolutely love it. Time off work, seeing family and friends, buying property gifts, few more drinks and food than usual.

I understand why people might not like it as all experiences of it are probably quite different but I always really look forward to it.