Fine for going to work?

[Maurice Swan]

Re: Fine for going to work?

I would also add that very often I would interview someone in the pub!!! None of that psychometric stuff.....I judged character (as well as ability...), and often took on people with 'odd' character that others would deem 'not suited' . I never regretted one decision - they all became loyal staff and usually went beyond their remit to help the client in non-contractual problems.

[Tuerto]

Re: Fine for going to work?

Don't forget blue sky thinking, touching base and thinking outside the box

Not to ridicule JamesWales original post as i agreed with a lot of it, especially the isolation issues he spoke about with people having problems at home, although if i used the phrases you've just highlighted on one of my building sites i'd end up with a trowel shoved up my arse.

[Dorcus]

Re: Fine for going to work?

I would also add that very often I would interview someone in the pub!!! None of that psychometric stuff.....I judged character (as well as ability...), and often took on people with 'odd' character that others would deem 'not suited' . I never regretted one decision - they all became loyal staff and usually went beyond their remit to help the client in non-contractual problems.

You sound like my sort of guy Maurice.

[Dorcus]

Re: Fine for going to work?

Not to ridicule JamesWales original post as i agreed with a lot of it, especially the isolation issues he spoke about with people having problems at home, although if i used the phrases you've just highlighted on one of my building sites i'd end up with a trowel shoved up my arse.

Now imagine how cross-eyed you'd look with a hawk shoved up your aspidistra!

Sorry mate I couldn't resist that one; it is Christmas after all 😀

[Tuerto]

Re: Fine for going to work?

Now imagine how cross-eyed you'd look with a hawk shoved up your aspidistra!

Sorry mate I couldn't resist that one; it is Christmas after all ��

Yup, the old 'Bird of Prey' Fully loaded as well :hehe:

[Dorcus]

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Yup, the old 'Bird of Prey' Fully loaded as well :hehe:

Lol 👍

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Fine for going to work?

Sounds a bit like prison. Actually, a lot like prison. Do you get your food via Deliveroo and gen. shopping via Amazon ?

I'm not sure how to read your post but it reads a lot like a dig i.e. a bit condescending. I can assure you that the real prison, for me, is being trapped in a neurodegenerative disease state. So, it's no surprise that my working conditions are well-suited to my disabilities. These working conditions were 'forced' upon me due to medical circumstances.

That said, I stand by everything I wrote which, incidentally was from a very personal viewpoint but I did touch upon the environmental costs of current work practices.

James makes a lot of good points about mental health for example. I would say this though, that for every positive that someone makes for office work, I could turn that into a negative, and, of course, you or anyone else can do the same to my preferences too.

One thing that struck me during the first lockdown was that people were going stir crazy for not being able to get out of the house after a few days/weeks when disabled people have been living like this with very little empathy or understanding for decades. There's always an assumption that people are the same as 'us' when in fact that's blatantly not true.

Something that tech and the kind of assistive tech and communication systems we now have means that for disabled people, we finally have a level playing field. The restrictions of conventional work practices have been removed. F*ck, we can even apply for jobs and positions and use our skills without bias and restrictions. Think about it for a moment. That's pretty f*cking amazing.

Maurice clearly knows that the quirky and different can be great employees. I like his approach and I wasn't surprised when he referenced programmers as we're a geeky bunch and work and think differently because our brains have been re-wired through computer languages.

I have five 4K screens in front of me rendering 3D animations for video games. I couldn't work in a conventional office environment as I rely on smart, voice-activated systems and write macros for Windows and Mac systems that will automatically perform tasks. If I lose feeling in my hands then I can use voice-activated systems. If I lose the use of my facial muscles, I can type. If I lose the use of both, I'm f*cked.

Without the tech then I'd be trapped. Without companies like Amazon and Deliveroo, I'd be trapped.

I wasn’t going to reply to your comments as it takes energy and valuable resources but there’s a wider issue and it’s kind of important to emphasise these points, at least, for me, it is. BTW there's no animosity on my part, I don't want to make anyone feel bad. You didn't know my personal circumstances. I mentioned in a post recently about being an advocate and activist for disability rights and I guess this is just me doing what I do.

[life on mars]

Re: Fine for going to work?

Jesus, you're hard work, aren't you? All of a sudden you're concerned about people on low income, poor working conditions, a lack of proper sick pay, sounds like those people could be on Zero hour contracts, stuck in the gig economy etc. You do realise how this has come about, don't you? Forget party politics as well, because both sides of the coin have contributed towards the things that you seem so concerned about, yet i can't recall you ever mentioning it.

Do you think they should be fined then ??

[life on mars]

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Now imagine how cross-eyed you'd look with a hawk shoved up your aspidistra!

Sorry mate I couldn't resist that one; it is Christmas after all 😀

Very funny , Xmas folk fined for going to work ffs , earning basic wages .

[life on mars]

Re: Fine for going to work?

well i,m going to follow the science and take my laptop up the local pub and work from there

happy xmas Mr Drakeford :xmashehe:

I actually that today .

[jon1959]

Re: Fine for going to work?

Don't forget blue sky thinking, touching base and thinking outside the box

I think you should run that up the flag pole and see who salutes.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Fine for going to work?

I think you should run that up the flag pole and see who salutes.

Here's the skinny, we need to square the circle.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Fine for going to work?

Here's the skinny, we need to square the circle.

Sorry, I forgot the :puke:

[Dorcus]

Re: Fine for going to work?

Very funny , Xmas folk fined for going to work ffs , earning basic wages .

Fine their employers instead. Have you just woken up from a two year hibernation?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Fine for going to work?

What seems a ludicrous justification of the decision to fine employees £60 from Drakeford, but maybe I'm missing something?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mark-drakeford-defends-60-fine-22548468