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  • #16
    Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

    Why isn't the line parallel with the pitch grassy line?

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by Albany View Post
      What concerns me is that Norwich won the Championship at a canter last season yet cannot compete in The Prem. Is the gap widening?
      Brentford are doing fine and Watford aren't terrible, Norwich are just odd

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by Albany View Post
        What concerns me is that Norwich won the Championship at a canter last season yet cannot compete in The Prem. Is the gap widening?
        I didn't think that Norwich were as good as some thought they were and i said as much when they beat us at their place, in my opinion we made it easy for them, although i'm not saying that we would have won the game if we had pressed a bit higher.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by lardy View Post
          Why isn't the line parallel with the pitch grassy line?
          Grounsmen had a few beers before getting the mowers out

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
            It's not VAR. It's the offside rule. It has to be changed.
            Agreed, Although Harry Kane, like all footballers uses his arms for balance, movement and shaping his body when he is about to make his move. It does seem harsh, but i don't think it is as bad as some people think it is.

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            • #21
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              A similar situation tonight, Foden’s goal given though.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                Agreed, Although Harry Kane, like all footballers uses his arms for balance, movement and shaping his body when he is about to make his move. It does seem harsh, but i don't think it is as bad as some people think it is.
                The thing is for me is that it was about being level and the attacker was always supposed to get the advantage or at least the benefit of the doubt. And then there's the whole clear and obvious thing. For an attacker's feet to be level and his shoulder or hand or shirt sleeve to be deemed in front just seems like taking it to extremes. If you can't look at a replay without drawing several lines and decide whether or not a player is offside then he shouldn't be offside. It goes the other way too. Give some power back to the linesman.

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                • #23
                  Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                  Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
                  The thing is for me is that it was about being level and the attacker was always supposed to get the advantage or at least the benefit of the doubt. And then there's the whole clear and obvious thing. For an attacker's feet to be level and his shoulder or hand or shirt sleeve to be deemed in front just seems like taking it to extremes. If you can't look at a replay without drawing several lines and decide whether or not a player is offside then he shouldn't be offside. It goes the other way too. Give some power back to the linesman.
                  Completely with you. I don't like it, although pundits, fans, football officials etc were calling for it quite vociferously and officials were getting battered over the tiniest of mistakes. Maybe if people hadn't been so reactionary and saw the game for what it is then we would not have this technology in place. It's as much as a safety net for officials as it is an indicator for the officials.

                  By the letter of the law, Kane is offside, the officials have done their job, and it seems that's what plenty of supporters wanted when things didn't go their way.

                  I preferred the old rules, I preferred mistakes by players and officials, you win some, you lose some.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    Completely with you. I don't like it, although pundits, fans, football officials etc were calling for it quite vociferously and officials were getting battered over the tiniest of mistakes. Maybe if people hadn't been so reactionary and saw the game for what it is then we would not have this technology in place. It's as much as a safety net for officials as it is an indicator for the officials.

                    By the letter of the law, Kane is offside, the officials have done their job, and it seems that's what plenty of supporters wanted when things didn't go their way.

                    I preferred the old rules, I preferred mistakes by players and officials, you win some, you lose some.
                    Absolutely. Goal line technology was fine, but I was against var all along. It's improved, it seems we were getting this every week at one point, but it's fixing a problem that wasn't really there.

                    If pundits had analysed a game instead of taking the easy way out and talked about the ref, we wouldn't be here.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by lardy View Post
                      Absolutely. Goal line technology was fine, but I was against var all along. It's improved, it seems we were getting this every week at one point, but it's fixing a problem that wasn't really there.

                      If pundits had analysed a game instead of taking the easy way out and talked about the ref, we wouldn't be here.
                      The thing that gets me about pundits, ex players etc is that they've played the game, they know how these things work, they even out, and they also know that it's excuse making. They would be drilled from an early age to know that they shouldn't give a referee or an opponent the opportunity to get one over on them, if they get themselves in a shit position then it's their fault, not the officials. They're high end professionals, they know the score.

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                      • #26
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                        This might have been said in this thread but the easy fix is setting the offside line by the player's foot and nothing else , that would stop the most ridiculous and contentious decisions immediately

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                          The thing that gets me about pundits, ex players etc is that they've played the game, they know how these things work, they even out, and they also know that it's excuse making. They would be drilled from an early age to know that they shouldn't give a referee or an opponent the opportunity to get one over on them, if they get themselves in a shit position then it's their fault, not the officials. They're high end professionals, they know the score.
                          Oh yeah, they're definitely not letting any secrets slip out. When you read the Secret Footballer, although you have to take it with a pinch of salt, it's far removed from punditworld.

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                            This might have been said in this thread but the easy fix is setting the offside line by the player's foot and nothing else , that would stop the most ridiculous and contentious decisions immediately
                            It wasn't contentious though, it's the rules, it's what many people were calling for, black or white and nothing in between. He was offside according to the rules.

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                              It wasn't contentious though, it's the rules, it's what many people were calling for, black or white and nothing in between. He was offside according to the rules.
                              It's certainly what the TV companies were calling for. For years whenever there was a contentious decision the commentator would invariably comment that onfield TV replies would put an end to wrong decisions. VAR is 'TV gold'..

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                                It wasn't contentious though, it's the rules, it's what many people were calling for, black or white and nothing in between. He was offside according to the rules.
                                Ok what's contentious is that that is the rule

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