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  • #31
    Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

    Originally posted by lardy View Post
    Absolutely. Goal line technology was fine, but I was against var all along. It's improved, it seems we were getting this every week at one point, but it's fixing a problem that wasn't really there.

    If pundits had analysed a game instead of taking the easy way out and talked about the ref, we wouldn't be here.
    I like VAR as a concept. It's its implementation I have a problem with and of course the offside law itself. I was hoping VAR would put an end to or at least slow down the proliferation of diving across the leagues. And I still don't understand why diving is not a straight red. Also, something needs to be done about players "creating" fouls by leaving a leg in. It's obvious what's going on. "Drawing" a foul is now something that is deemed commendable. I don't get it.

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    • #32
      Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

      Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
      I like VAR as a concept. It's its implementation I have a problem with and of course the offside law itself. I was hoping VAR would put an end to or at least slow down the proliferation of diving across the leagues. And I still don't understand why diving is not a straight red. Also, something needs to be done about players "creating" fouls by leaving a leg in. It's obvious what's going on. "Drawing" a foul is now something that is deemed commendable. I don't get it.
      Drawing a foul doesn't belong on football- only really ever associated it with basketball before.
      Ex-Strikers will say that the player was entitled go down as there was contact. Bollocks.

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      • #33
        Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

        Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
        Drawing a foul doesn't belong on football- only really ever associated it with basketball before.
        Ex-Strikers will say that the player was entitled go down as there was contact. Bollocks.


        Bollocks indeed.

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        • #34
          Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

          Now THAT was some VAR bullshit.

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          • #35
            Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

            Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
            Now THAT was some VAR bullshit.
            Definite penalty to Man City. He put his leg out and then pulled his shirt. Now a stupid sending off. It’s all gone Pete Tong in 5 minutes for Arsenal.

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            • #36
              Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

              Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
              Now THAT was some VAR bullshit.
              100% penalty, he stuck his leg out AND pulled his shirt. Imagine that not being given for us

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              • #37
                Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                How can it be 100% a penalty if there's a blatant dive? Bernardo lost control of the ball, gave up and just threw himself to the ground.

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                • #38
                  Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                  Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                  100% penalty, he stuck his leg out AND pulled his shirt. Imagine that not being given for us
                  You missed out the 10/10 swallow dive at the end.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                    Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
                    Drawing a foul doesn't belong on football- only really ever associated it with basketball before.
                    Ex-Strikers will say that the player was entitled go down as there was contact. Bollocks.
                    I do think that a bit of Professional deception is fair game. I've always been of the opinion that if a striker (whose job is much more difficult than a defender) can put the defender in a bad position and exploit it, then fair enough. Most professional footballers will know if they've been done, and i'm sure that defenders do the same thing in order to gain an advantage. I get why people don't like it, but sometimes it's just clever play in my opinion.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                      Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
                      How can it be 100% a penalty if there's a blatant dive? Bernardo lost control of the ball, gave up and just threw himself to the ground.
                      With his shirt getting pulled and the defender's leg across him, it's a penalty every single time

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                      • #41
                        Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                        Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                        You missed out the 10/10 swallow dive at the end.
                        He’d have hit the floor a lot quicker if the Arsenal player hadn’t have had about £35 worth of blue shirt in his hand. Definite pen and there’s a lot not given for shirt pulling, anywhere else on the pitch a shirt tug is a free kick.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                          Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
                          How can it be 100% a penalty if there's a blatant dive? Bernardo lost control of the ball, gave up and just threw himself to the ground.

                          We had a pelanty rightly given at West Brom a few seasons back when their ‘keeper hit Chopra, the ball was near the dug outs at the time. The location of the ball has nothing to do with it, you kick someone, punch someone, pull their shirt whatever, it’s an offence. Daft challenge by the Arsenal player today and the shirt tug was more ammunition for the penalty decision.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                            Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                            He’d have hit the floor a lot quicker if the Arsenal player hadn’t have had about £35 worth of blue shirt in his hand. Definite pen and there’s a lot not given for shirt pulling, anywhere else on the pitch a shirt tug is a free kick.
                            It’s all bollox mate. Arsenal should have had a pen in the 1st half. Inconsistency is still rife, even with VAR

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                            • #44
                              Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                              Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                              It’s all bollox mate. Arsenal should have had a pen in the 1st half. Inconsistency is still rife, even with VAR
                              No doubt but this conversation was about Manchester’s penalty. Inconsistency is frustrating but if one mistake is made it shouldn’t follow that ‘We made a mistake on the Arsenal penalty decision so if Manchester get a stonewaller we won’t give it to even things up’.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Another ridiculous VAR decision

                                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                                I do think that a bit of Professional deception is fair game. I've always been of the opinion that if a striker (whose job is much more difficult than a defender) can put the defender in a bad position and exploit it, then fair enough. Most professional footballers will know if they've been done, and i'm sure that defenders do the same thing in order to gain an advantage. I get why people don't like it, but sometimes it's just clever play in my opinion.
                                I'm surprised you say that. Defending seems like a nightmare to me. You're trying to stop someone doing something, worrying about positioning etc. Getting the ball and trying to score, although very difficult seems much more natural to me. If you try to run into space and a defender tracks you, or anticipates your movement it's not your fault. If you get half a dozen chances and bag one of them you'll get away with it. Whereas if you're a defender if you're not just defending against a striker or even two, you're defending against the whole team. You have to guess everything. If you make the same ratio of mistakes over a whole game you're out.

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