UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

[Dorcus]

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We have an owner worth a billion dollars. Or so I'm told.

Who's not keen on parting with money

[Rjk]

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Maybe £7M. Wolves are holding their own at Old Trafford right now. Do you see Giles fitting into that team? He's good, but he's fairly one dimensional. He's far from a complete player.

we aren't going to be spending £7 million on anyone.
we aren't going up whether we spent 1 million or 50 million this season so it isn't the right time to be pumping money in.
plus we have to be pretty close to the FFP limits already so it isn't going to happen

[Vindec]

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Who's not keen on parting with money

Hasn't he spent around a quarter of his net wealth on Cardiff City? His net worth is currently around 800000 dollars and given the devaluation of his businesses I doubt very much whether he has much, if any, free equity to invest in the Cardiff City money pit.

I doubt even the most ardent Cardiff City fan has spent a quarter of their worth on the club. Would anyone here really re mortgage their house to give to the club to invest in players? I certainly wouldn't.

[stan butler]

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We have an owner worth a billion dollars. Or so I'm told.

We also need a club that's run more efficiently so the days of spending millions on players are over for now and it won't be just Cardiff City either

[Dorcus]

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Hasn't he spent around a quarter of his net wealth on Cardiff City? His net worth is currently around 800000 dollars and given the devaluation of his businesses I doubt very much whether he has much, if any, free equity to invest in the Cardiff City money pit.

I doubt even the most ardent Cardiff City fan has spent a quarter of their worth on the club. Would anyone here really re mortgage their house to give to the club to invest in players? I certainly wouldn't.

All that makes it sound like a good time for him to call it a day and maybe pass the reins to someone else who does want to invest money because without it neither the club not Tan will be in good shape.

[Dorcus]

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We also need a club that's run more efficiently so the days of spending millions on players are over for now and it won't be just Cardiff City either

That's absolutely true Stan so that means a properly organized board setup with Financial, Management and Football experience and expertise. No more allowing maverick managers to run the meagre club coffers.

[splott parker]

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Hasn't he spent around a quarter of his net wealth on Cardiff City? His net worth is currently around 800000 dollars and given the devaluation of his businesses I doubt very much whether he has much, if any, free equity to invest in the Cardiff City money pit.

I doubt even the most ardent Cardiff City fan has spent a quarter of their worth on the club. Would anyone here really re mortgage their house to give to the club to invest in players? I certainly wouldn't.

Eight hundred thousand dollars? That means he’s nowhere near a dollar millionaire let alone a sterling one. There’s fans in the stands with a lot more equity than that. Google says he’s worth 800 million dollars.

[stan butler]

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All that makes it sound like a good time for him to call it a day and maybe pass the reins to someone else who does want to invest money because without it neither the club not Tan will be in good shape.

From what i heard Tan has received offers which were not good enough.
That bad smell Hammam who took us to the brink and is still scavenging for money was involved in another offer and luckily he won't be near our club anytime soon.
I honestly believe that Tan will be going down the route of getting other asia based investors onboard.

[stan butler]

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That's absolutely true Stan so that means a properly organized board setup with Financial, Management and Football experience and expertise. No more allowing maverick managers to run the meagre club coffers.

Have those at the club finally clicked on and what we are seeing is a clear out stage ready to rebuild properly?
I live in hope bur won't hold my breathe

[Citizen's Nephew]

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It's clearly disappointing that Giles is recalled but hardly unexpected. This is why I don't like loan players unless there's a clause to buy. They're sticking plasters as they're not investments in the club and, in my view, should be cover not starting. I know that's not a popular view but it's what I think. We have no cover at wing-back but we're insisting on sticking with this formation. If Morison wants to stick with it then we need cover anyway. He wanted the job, time to step up and earn his keep because he knew the score when he took it on.

I don't get the love affair with Giles anyway. He's OK. Nothing special in the grand scheme of things but is clearly special to us which is not difficult considering our situation. With WBA a player short yesterday we should have used him as our main attack but we didn't seem to have a strategy.

I don't share our manager's optimism that we won't go down. We could go down. The table doesn't lie. He needs to get these players firing. It's all very well saying we're rebuilding, which we are, but we're surviving too. We're not safe and we need to get a couple of wins soon.

And also, why are 20+year-old players regularly referred to as kids? Kids would be 16-17-year-olds. Just a personal gripe that's all.

[Dorcus]

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From what i heard Tan has received offers which were not good enough.
That bad smell Hammam who took us to the brink and is still scavenging for money was involved in another offer and luckily he won't be near our club anytime soon.
I honestly believe that Tan will be going down the route of getting other asia based investors onboard.

My preference would be for Tan to get out of the way. But if that's not to happen then more Asian investment could be a positive. However I think for that to benefit us it would have to be on the basis that Tan is a minority shareholder and is removed from plenary decision-making.

If that happens we might have a chance of a more professional and constructive management regime which would look to develop the club long term. Of course we would have to rely upon the integrity and ability of those taking charge. Dalman and Choo should walk.

[Former Labour leader]

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My preference would be for Tan to get out of the way. But if that's not to happen then more Asian investment could be a positive. However I think for that to benefit us it would have to be on the basis that Tan is a minority shareholder and is removed from plenary decision-making.

If that happens we might have a chance of a more professional and constructive management regime which would look to develop the club long term. Of course we would have to rely upon the integrity and ability of those taking charge. Dalman and Choo should walk.

Bit of a story doing the twitter rounds that Giles may return to City.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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My preference would be for Tan to get out of the way. But if that's not to happen then more Asian investment could be a positive. However I think for that to benefit us it would have to be on the basis that Tan is a minority shareholder and is removed from plenary decision-making.

If that happens we might have a chance of a more professional and constructive management regime which would look to develop the club long term. Of course we would have to rely upon the integrity and ability of those taking charge. Dalman and Choo should walk.

Tan isn't interested in being a minority shareholder.

[City123]

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We've got Colwill who can play 10, who can actually play football and they're trying to pass it so the midfield might try to keep it. I think the fact we've been absolutely terrible with a back 5 for about 9 months is all the reason you need to change it. We need a left wing back, we can't play this formation without an attacking option there. We don't have that. With Bagan and Ng, it is a back 5.

Agreed. It's fairly obvious the centre backs aren't comfortable in a 3 and we're sliced open easily. Our remaining wing backs are really full backs and this system leaves us with very few attackers, with us shoehorning players like Colwill in

[Rjk]

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Agreed. It's fairly obvious the centre backs aren't comfortable in a 3 and we're sliced open easily. Our remaining wing backs are really full backs and this system leaves us with very few attackers, with us shoehorning players like Colwill in

I wouldn't say we are shoehorning colwill in.
behind the striker in a 3-4-1-2 or a 3-4-2-1 is surely his best position?
how else would you use him?