Drakeford pulled no punches then

[goats]

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Question was “why is Wales not following england”

Drakeford.
They have a government that is politically paralysed and the question is, why is england not taking steps
to protect its population such as Scotland,Northern Ireland and everyone else.
Because he (Boris) can’t get agreement from his cabinet to take actions from his advisors nor his MP’s.

Ooof dissing them in public was he? Won’t go down well when he’s outside number 10 with his begging bowl will it?
Shame he can’t admit over half the new hospital cases are people admitted for something else and they caught it in hospital whilst being treated for something else

[life on mars]

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And you could argue that Labour has a 'political paralysis' as it seems English Labour supports Boris ,if Wales is so good why doesn't Sir Keir get aboard .

Covid Politics is being played out everywhere .

We have a weaker variant, it has big cases, small deaths , surely at some point that makes a difference .

[the other bob wilson]

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It's a fair point on the 'political paralysis' but nonetheless it's an attack, whereas he could just say that England are doing what they think is best and we are doing what we think is best. He politicised the answer...although I suppose thats what politicians do, but it just feels like constant points scoring and I genuinely dont think that comes from England as much, although they certainly should be criticised in other respects.

I am not privy to all current restrictions across Europe but I don't think Englands approach is particularly an outlier. The restrictions are less severe than many countries I am sure, but I dont think they are alone, and there are numerous restrictions in place even if it is more liberal than Wales.

It’s hard not to politicise the answer when the question is why isn’t Wales doing the same as England I would have thought.

[the other bob wilson]

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Ooof dissing them in public was he? Won’t go down well when he’s outside number 10 with his begging bowl will it?
Shame he can’t admit over half the new hospital cases are people admitted for something else and they caught it in hospital whilst being treated for something else

Begging bowl? Who helped the UK Government out when they didn’t have enough LFTs?

[City123]

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Begging bowl? Who helped the UK Government out when they didn’t have enough LFTs?

Some of the shit that gets trotted out on this board about the Welsh Government and Senedd is frankly embarrassing. "Begging bowl", "Dripford" etc, some people seem unable to come to terms with a decision taken over 20 years ago! Fortunately they're in the minority nationally

[City123]

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It's a fair point on the 'political paralysis' but nonetheless it's an attack, whereas he could just say that England are doing what they think is best and we are doing what we think is best. He politicised the answer...although I suppose thats what politicians do, but it just feels like constant points scoring and I genuinely dont think that comes from England as much, although they certainly should be criticised in other respects.

I am not privy to all current restrictions across Europe but I don't think Englands approach is particularly an outlier. The restrictions are less severe than many countries I am sure, but I dont think they are alone, and there are numerous restrictions in place even if it is more liberal than Wales.

He is the First Minister, any answer he gives is political by default.

[blue matt]

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Or we need to do something different and we can always blame another government body , if business go bust, we have large unemployment , poverty and mental illness in years to come , we can blame Westminster .

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Its a cracking position to be in

Numbers turn out favourably for Wales --- look at us, we looked after you ( WIN )

Jobs down the pan, high unemployment --- its all Westminsters fault, not ours ( WIN )

it truly is a win - win situation, as they always have the evil empire ( England ) to blame

[Tuerto]

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Some of the shit that gets trotted out on this board about the Welsh Government and Senedd is frankly embarrassing. "Begging bowl", "Dripford" etc, some people seem unable to come to terms with a decision taken over 20 years ago! Fortunately they're in the minority nationally

You know what, i was going to write something that attempted to explain why people feel the way they do about us as a nation having the ability to decide what is right for us, or at least as close as we can towards it, then i thought, nah, your post is enough for me

[WJ99mobile]

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Its a cracking position to be in

Numbers turn out favourably for Wales --- look at us, we looked after you ( WIN )

Jobs down the pan, high unemployment --- its all Westminsters fault, not ours ( WIN )

it truly is a win - win situation, as they always have the evil empire ( England ) to blame

The WAG have got it easy, they only have to look after healthcare, whereas the costs not theirs to worry about.

The fraud is not their problem, so it's an easy stick to beat the UK government with

I just wish sometimes Boris would hold his hand up

[The Bloop]

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It's an odd situation we're in with many people in Wales calling for Drakeford to ease restrictions, because there's less in England. Whereas, on the other hand, Boris is finding himself under pressure from scientists and NHS leaders to do something about rising case rates and hospitalisations.
Who's right and who's wrong?

[Dorcus]

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The WAG have got it easy, they only have to look after healthcare, whereas the costs not theirs to worry about.

The fraud is not their problem, so it's an easy stick to beat the UK government with

I just wish sometimes Boris would hold his hand up

I wish sometimes Boris would hold his hand over his mouth.

[The Lone Gunman]

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It's an odd situation we're in with many people in Wales calling for Drakeford to ease restrictions, because there's less in England.

Is that the only reason people are calling for Drakeford to ease restrictions?

[The Bloop]

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Is that the only reason people are calling for Drakeford to ease restrictions?

No, but it's a comparison that's made quite often particularly in relation to hospitality and sport.

[Dorcus]

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You know what, i was going to write something that attempted to explain why people feel the way they do about us as a nation having the ability to decide what is right for us, or at least as close as we can towards it, then i thought, nah, your post is enough for me

I voted against a Welsh Assembly 20 years ago and I have always been against devolution. I'm not particularly into Welsh culture and I have always wanted a more Integrated Britain. I'm one of these who when asked on a form what my nationality is I always state British.

However, since Mr Drakeford has become leader and in comparison to the miasma of sleaze and confusion in Westminster I've started to change my mind. Yes there have been one or two calls Drakeford has made which I disagree with (who agrees with everyone all the time?) but I have been left with the reassuring feeling that we are in safe hands under his watch. I would be feeling decidedly different if I lived in England.

If an independent Welsh state would get us away from the Tories then it would get my vote now.

[The Lone Gunman]

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No, but it's a comparison that's made quite often particularly in relation to hospitality and sport.

Fair enough. What I keep hearing from people who, like me, are sick to the back teeth of the restrictions Drakeford and Co keep imposing is that, now we have vaccines, boosters and Covid passports, we have to start learning to live with this damned virus come what may. And I also keep hearing people asking what the actual justification is for these restrictions when the situation is allegedly so much better now than it was this time last year, and also what the so-called 'science' is behind them. There seems to be a distinct scarcity of that at the moment.

I suppose we should look on the bright side, though. At least the venerable First Minister has downgraded the Omicron variant from a 'tsunami' to a 'storm', so things are looking up.