Morison got his squad selection right today.

[life on mars]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

I've been hoping to see Denham get his chance and my god he took it along with the very promising McGuinness the centre backs along with the experience of Flint should be built on iof wea re to progress as all good teams are built form the back .

As for Colwill its known he had a dip in from even at U23 level , I should imagine the pressure placed on his young shoulders came way too quickly in a struggling team and a step back was needed .

If their has been a falling out with Colwill or Davies ?? because of criticism or harsh advise surely it part of there development ?

[Dave Blue]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

Denham played well. His performance made me wonder why Morison has persisted with Nelson for so long. But I can’t understand why King was selected ahead of Colwill.

I honestly can’t recall King doing anything of note today. Can’t recall hearing his name mentioned before he was subbed. That’s no reflection on him, he’s a kid making his debut at Anfield in a game where his side struggled to record 20% possession. But I can’t work out what Morison is doing with Colwill. And I’m not saying that in retrospect, either. Denham’s debut you could understand given Morrison’s injury, but King’s was a strange selection from the off.

I didn't realise King was in the side until I got home.

[Rjk]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

Denham played well. His performance made me wonder why Morison has persisted with Nelson for so long. But I can’t understand why King was selected ahead of Colwill.

I honestly can’t recall King doing anything of note today. Can’t recall hearing his name mentioned before he was subbed. That’s no reflection on him, he’s a kid making his debut at Anfield in a game where his side struggled to record 20% possession. But I can’t work out what Morison is doing with Colwill. And I’m not saying that in retrospect, either. Denham’s debut you could understand given Morrison’s injury, but King’s was a strange selection from the off.

King instead of Colwill was presumably for tactical reasons, as he wanted to play 3CMs and 2 up front, rather than 2 CMS 1AM and 2 up front. hopefully once we get a bit more assured we will go back to having 2 in CM against weaker sides.
I don't think anyone sees Colwill as a central midfielder.

you'd have thought that Bowen would be ahead of king, given he's played for us before, but he was out for a long time and king has been on the fringes of the squad before iirc, so perhaps not as big a call as it seems.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

King instead of Colwill was presumably for tactical reasons, as he wanted to play 3CMs and 2 up front, rather than 2 CMS 1AM and 2 up front. hopefully once we get a bit more assured we will go back to having 2 in CM against weaker sides.
I don't think anyone sees Colwill as a central midfielder.

you'd have thought that Bowen would be ahead of king, given he's played for us before, but he was out for a long time and king has been on the fringes of the squad before iirc, so perhaps not as big a call as it seems.

:thumbup:

[Disco Des]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

where are you getting this from?

You can see it here reading between the lines.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-boss-morison-explains-23021682

It would seem that man management along with media training are the things Morison needs to work on the most, this will come with experience though hopefully.

[Rjk]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

You can see it here reading between the lines.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-boss-morison-explains-23021682

It would seem that man management along with media training are the things Morison needs to work on the most, this will come with experience though hopefully.

what are you reading between the lines there? seems pretty on the level to me.
he obviously still rates him and he's explained why he's not starting at the moment

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

what are you reading between the lines there? seems pretty on the level to me.
he obviously still rates him and he's explained why he's not starting at the moment

I've read that and I agree with you.

People need to stop looking, and at times, forcing things to be an issue.

It may be that some of the younger players genuinely aren't happy with the game time they are getting or overall squad involvement, which then gets out to the public in dribs and drabs, now the players dislike Morison or whatever its turned into, but he's explained it well enough for me.

Maybe I can't see the issue because I'm not trying to force an issue where there isn't one, because I'm on the let's knock anything morison does or says brigade.

[City123]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

I've read that and I agree with you.

People need to stop looking, and at times, forcing things to be an issue.

It may be that some of the younger players genuinely aren't happy with the game time they are getting or overall squad involvement, which then gets out to the public in dribs and drabs, now the players dislike Morison or whatever its turned into, but he's explained it well enough for me.

Maybe I can't see the issue because I'm not trying to force an issue where there isn't one, because I'm on the let's knock anything morison does or says brigade.

I think a problem Morison does have is that he's maybe a little clunky in how he words things and can come across a little harsh. For instance the comparison with Carvalho, sure he's performed better but he's also in a completely different team at a different end of the table who can actually keep the ball and is surrounded by excellent Championship players. Colwill on the other hand has sometimes been the only player in the side who looks at least somewhat comfortable with the ball at his feet.

Morison ought to get better at that side of things though and I like the explanation he gave for why Colwill didn't go to Barnsley. I may not necesarily agree, but at least he's explained the reasons why he made that decision

I'm not entirely sold on Morison and I don't really understand the hero worship he gets on Twitter, but he's doing as well as could realistically be expected so far, one or two strange comments aside

[Rjk]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

I think a problem Morison does have is that he's maybe a little clunky in how he words things and can come across a little harsh. For instance the comparison with Carvalho, sure he's performed better but he's also in a completely different team at a different end of the table who can actually keep the ball and is surrounded by excellent Championship players. Colwill on the other hand has sometimes been the only player in the side who looks at least somewhat comfortable with the ball at his feet.

Morison ought to get better at that side of things though and I like the explanation he gave for why Colwill didn't go to Barnsley. I may not necesarily agree, but at least he's explained the reasons why he made that decision

they're young players, they should be in and out of the team at this point. let's not have a moan every time one of them is dropped or rested.

its great that we have a group of youngsters that are desperate to play, but I don't think any of them have any reason to feel hard done by, especially compared to other clubs or previous seasons. if any of the youngsters are currently sulking. then they want to look at the bigger picture.
not that there is any evidence of that from them on the pitch, they always seem like a happy group of players to me

[stan butler]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

In that he gave the chance to be involved to older players some of whom are out of contract, to younger players who have recently been left out of the squad and to new guys.

We go into the rest of the season with a whole squad of players who have the right to think that might feature.

Tan picked the starting line up then rang Morison at half time and said it's over to you now :hehe:

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

they're young players, they should be in and out of the team at this point. let's not have a moan every time one of them is dropped or rested.

its great that we have a group of youngsters that are desperate to play, but I don't think any of them have any reason to feel hard done by, especially compared to other clubs or previous seasons. if any of the youngsters are currently sulking. then they want to look at the bigger picture.
not that there is any evidence of that from them on the pitch, they always seem like a happy group of players to me

Sulking shows lack of character. Unless they shake that kind of attitude it might just not be this manager and this club that they don't make it under.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

I think a problem Morison does have is that he's maybe a little clunky in how he words things and can come across a little harsh. For instance the comparison with Carvalho, sure he's performed better but he's also in a completely different team at a different end of the table who can actually keep the ball and is surrounded by excellent Championship players. Colwill on the other hand has sometimes been the only player in the side who looks at least somewhat comfortable with the ball at his feet.

Morison ought to get better at that side of things though and I like the explanation he gave for why Colwill didn't go to Barnsley. I may not necesarily agree, but at least he's explained the reasons why he made that decision

I'm not entirely sold on Morison and I don't really understand the hero worship he gets on Twitter, but he's doing as well as could realistically be expected so far, one or two strange comments aside

He's comparing positions and ages, and how one is more rounded. He is like that because of his own hard work, not the team around him, it helps him improve and he can shine in a better team, but I think these sorts of players can do it regardless, look at Wilsons stats for us in a shite team. He still pulled it our of the bag.

We need to stop making excuses.

[Rjk]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

He's comparing positions and ages, and how one is more rounded. He is like that because of his own hard work, not the team around him, it helps him improve and he can shine in a better team, but I think these sorts of players can do it regardless, look at Wilsons stats for us in a shite team. He still pulled it our of the bag.

We need to stop making excuses.

also saying someone isn't as far along as carvalho or foden isn't exactly a criticism. its just showing where you need to be headed.
players develop at different rates and you never know if they'll make the leap to the next level or not, I think they're on the right track though, certainly compared with where we've been in the recent past

[City123]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

He's comparing positions and ages, and how one is more rounded. He is like that because of his own hard work, not the team around him, it helps him improve and he can shine in a better team, but I think these sorts of players can do it regardless, look at Wilsons stats for us in a shite team. He still pulled it our of the bag.

We need to stop making excuses.

Carvalho is a better player, but ignoring that one plays in a far better side which can afford him more time on the ball, more opportunities etc isn't making excuses, its acknowledging reality. Would Carvalho necesarily have the same stats if he played for us? I don't think so. If you look at where his goals are scored a lot of them have come in games where Fulham have annihilated the opposition, he has of course played his part in that but I think it's nonsensical not to acknowledge the difference between the teams these two play for.

Wilson's a perfect example of how the difference in the standard of their team impacts their output, he's already bettered his goals tally and has almost matched the number of assists from last season in 14 fewer games.

Either way I think we're in a good place with the youngsters and I look forward to them getting some more opportunities if we can secure survival.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Morison got his squad selection right today.

Carvalho is a better player, but ignoring that one plays in a far better side which can afford him more time on the ball, more opportunities etc isn't making excuses, its acknowledging reality. Would Carvalho necesarily have the same stats if he played for us? I don't think so. If you look at where his goals are scored a lot of them have come in games where Fulham have annihilated the opposition, he has of course played his part in that but I think it's nonsensical not to acknowledge the difference between the teams these two play for.

Wilson's a perfect example of how the difference in the standard of their team impacts their output, he's already bettered his goals tally and has almost matched the number of assists from last season in 14 fewer games.

Either way I think we're in a good place with the youngsters and I look forward to them getting some more opportunities if we can secure survival.

I didn't ignore it, I acknowledged it could help. I also said I think he is where he is because of himself.

Out youngsters are behind him, which is absolutely fine as well, but people attract interest from clubs like Liverpool for their all round ability and also how hard they work etc, it's not just skill based, so assists and goals won't be the only thing that have caught the eye, which is why I mentioned him being where he is because of himself :thumbup:

He probably keeps his head down when he's not in the team and doesn't moan to his friends, which then gets leaked on football message boards.