When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

[Wales-Bales]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

What happens if hostilities don't cease by the time and date given? (as would likely be the case)

What's your next move?

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[William Treseder]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

What happens if hostilities don't cease by the time and date given? (as would likely be the case)

What's your next move?

Moscow would be erased from the map.
Can’t you read !!!! 😁

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

This is a six-minute video of an English-speaking Russian who has an entirely different perspective on what's happening in Ukraine today and why.

A Russian has a different perspective? Amazing.

[Raymond Holt]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

My preferred option would be to inform Putin that unless hostilities cease by a certain time and date Moscow would be erased from the map. This is obviously not going to happen as unfortunately no Western leader comes close to JFK. At the least we should impose a no fly zone and make sure that no seaborne landings around Odessa are fruitless with the strongest appropriate defensive weapons put in place.

I'm glad you're not in charge of diplomatic relations threatening to murder 12 million Russian civilians probably ain't the best idea. And the consensus seems to be that trying to impose a no-fly zone would also likely lead to nuclear war as it would mean the world's two largest air forces going head to head.

This 'NATO can out-nuke them' idea is a funny one. Dr. David Kelly helped expose the Soviet Union's biological weapons programme decades ago; the implication being that bio weapons would be used in conjunction with nuclear weapons to ensure total annihilation. Nobody is winning that fight.

A diplomatic resolution is surely the preferred way to solve this? Western leaders need to handle this one with care.

[delmbox]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

Moscow would be erased from the map.
Can’t you read !!!! ��

It's a plan genius in its simplicity

[delmbox]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

I'm glad you're not in charge of diplomatic relations threatening to murder 12 million Russian civilians probably ain't the best idea. And the consensus seems to be that trying to impose a no-fly zone would also likely lead to nuclear war as it would mean the world's two largest air forces going head to head.

This 'NATO can out-nuke them' idea is a funny one. Dr. David Kelly helped expose the Soviet Union's biological weapons programme decades ago; the implication being that bio weapons would be used in conjunction with nuclear weapons to ensure total annihilation. Nobody is winning that fight.

A diplomatic resolution is surely the preferred way to solve this? Western leaders need to handle this one with care.

Crazily the world's two largest air forces are the US Air Force and the US Navy. Obviously if you're lumping them into one country Russia is second though

[Raymond Holt]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

Crazily the world's two largest air forces are the US Air Force and the US Navy. Obviously if you're lumping them into one country Russia is second though

Ooh, good stat

[life on mars]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

He will stop when he has enough of Ukraine he wants , and slowly but surely we will start to drop away sanctions , and Germany will cozy back up to them for the gas it so desperately needs.

He wins.

[stan butler]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

Crazily the world's two largest air forces are the US Air Force and the US Navy. Obviously if you're lumping them into one country Russia is second though

Many of Russia's pilots are inexperienced and some are just not very good

[the other bob wilson]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

This is a six-minute video of an English-speaking Russian who has an entirely different perspective on what's happening in Ukraine today and why. He also mentions uncomfortable reminders about all those freedom and democracy loving bombs that rained down on Libya, Serbia, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan by NATO and its member countries.

A Little insight into the "Russian invasion". Warning: This isn't mainstream. https://www.bitchute.com/video/GAH7af5xe3Qp/

And I voted for “regime change” in 2005 in the UK because of what happened in Iraq, I also supported stop the war movements financially and by other methods. I had the chance to those things. Does your typical Russian watching state controlled media and banned from using websites which portray a differing view have the chance to do the same? So I resent some sanctimonious Russian preaching to me about not supporting the actions taken by his country in the interests of “denazifying” Ukraine - what a sick word that is coming from the mouth of the modern day Hitler.

[AfricanBluebird]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

So Nuclear weapons, whilst being touted as a deterrent, also allow crackpot Dictators to cold bloodily murder thousands of innocent people, and blow buildings to bits, and basically just get away with it, whilst the rest of the world looks on.
What a monster we’ve created!

Exactly and a narrative that often gets left out of these conversations.

Deterrent they are not!

Various disarmament treaties have never gone far enough - INF Treaty (1987) and START I (1991) and START 2 (2003 I think).

Remember that the US withdrew from the INF Treaty in 2019 under president Donald Trump!!

Why have they not resulted in the eradication of nuclear weapons.... in the US the arms industry have lobbied, bribed, lied and cajoled to force the US to keep weapons while Russia.. well, under Putin have always been bad actors.

[goats]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

He will stop when he has enough of Ukraine he wants , and slowly but surely we will start to drop away sanctions , and Germany will cozy back up to them for the gas it so desperately needs.

He wins.

I don’t think so, it’s a wake up call for Western Europe, putin is a an arsehole who can’t be reasoned with. A massive mistake by the Germans to be be so reliant on them for Gas etc, I’m not sure where we get ours from but only 5% from Russia. I can see them being frozen out of everything now for years until Putin has gone.

[goats]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

And I voted for “regime change” in 2005 in the UK because of what happened in Iraq, I also supported stop the war movements financially and by other methods. I had the chance to those things. Does your typical Russian watching state controlled media and banned from using websites which portray a differing view have the chance to do the same? So I resent some sanctimonious Russian preaching to me about not supporting the actions taken by his country in the interests of “denazifying” Ukraine - what a sick word that is coming from the mouth of the modern day Hitler.

Even more worse as Zelensky has family who were killed by the nazi regime apparently….putin accusing him of being part of a regime that killed his own family ffs. How low can he go? We always here about these tough Russians that can take anything, where are they now? They know what’s really going on by now….time to rise up

[the other bob wilson]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

Even more worse as Zelensky has family who were killed by the nazi regime apparently….putin accusing him of being part of a regime that killed his own family ffs. How low can he go? We always here about these tough Russians that can take anything, where are they now? They know what’s really going on by now….time to rise up

They’re shelling nuclear energy plants now :facepalm:

[Grangenders]

Re: When is this spineless answer to Putin going to stop?

Unfortunately this thing is going to run and run. Until Putin is somehow removed from power then we need to prepare for years of this turmoil. The Article 5 of NATO is all well and good but if the Americans get cold feet and don’t want to get involved in another European war then Putin has the whole continent in his pocket.