Michael Gove.

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Re: Michael Gove.

Your first sentence cracked me up, but I presume you mean this

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...od-bank-claims

I mean it was a deliberate policy that brought food banks to the attention of those who may not have known their existence previously.

If that is all you took from what I write then its evident you're still focusing on the wrong things.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Michael Gove.

Just because you've got up the greasy poll a bit it's the age old story balls to poor and working class.

He missed the point really, the point was with labour in charge, we had a terrrible Winter of discontent, yes people can look back with nostalgia for that time, it's usually through rose tinted glasses because we were young and life seems better when you are young and still full of hope. Despite all that everyone was on strike and demanding more money and the economy was all over the shop not because of a World wide pandemic, or that they had just broken links with the EU, or a World wide Oil Gas fuel crisis and global shipping issues, or a War in Europe, but because of the way Labour were letting the unions run the country, and generally making a mess of the parts they were responsible for.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Michael Gove.

I mean it was a deliberate policy that brought food banks to the attention of those who may not have known their existence previously.

If that is all you took from what I write then its evident you're still focusing on the wrong things.

Well I thought the rest of what you wrote tied in with current Tory and Tory media thinking when it comes to trying to keep Johnson in a job, which seems to amount to trying to convince people that they’re all as bad as each other.

As for the other bit, an independent fact checking site says it’s not true.

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Re: Michael Gove.

Well I thought the rest of what you wrote tied in with current Tory and Tory media thinking when it comes to trying to keep Johnson in a job, which seems to amount to trying to convince people that they’re all as bad as each other.

What makes you think I want Johnson to stay in post given I have stated previously I think he should resign. And what makes you think current Tory thinking is Johnson should stay in post? Prior to the invasion of Ukraine, Johnson was facing a backbench revolt.

and make no mistake, most politicians are in it for themselves. There's very few who are truly munificent with entirely altruistic intentions. Tony Benn springs to mind, and maybe Dennis Skinner.

As for the other bit, an independent fact checking site says it’s not true.

there we are then, it must be false if it says so on the internet.

[ninian opinian]

Re: Michael Gove.

Cost of living crisis.
2 million skipping meals.
Inflation at 10%.
Exports down by billions.
Food imports down.
Home-grown food rotting in fields.
Growth plummeting.
Recession imminent.
State borrowing 3x what Labour left.

Perfect time for this absolute shambles of a government to start a Brexit trade war.

[life on mars]

Re: Michael Gove.

and someone voted for this one

"A Tory MP has been branded "out of touch" for saying people needed to learn how to cook and budget "properly", rather than use food banks."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61414951

Not well positioned , but there are some points to it that may help some , what we need is no foodbanks .

Thought his was good reply from Crabb, the Preseli Pembrokeshire Tory MP who was work and pensions secretary in 2016, tweeted:

“Conservatives tend to emphasise work, good budgeting/housekeeping, strong families etc as defences against hardship.

“Problem right now for many people is that ticking all those boxes still doesn’t keep their heads above water. Government has done a lot but more is required.”

If I was Labour or opposition MP's or media I woudl take up his challenge and visit and report on it , perhaps there maybe some grains of usefulness or lessons to be learned .

[blue matt]

Re: Michael Gove.

I used to have vesta curry and put it in bread and butter like a curry sandwich, that was decent to be fair :thumbup:

I had something similar for lunch :thumbup:

a packet of sainsburies curry flavour noodles ( think super noodles but cheaper ) with some button mushrooms and very small bits of pineapple ( think a normal chunk cut into 3 ) and a chillie chopped up all in a Wrap, with a dollop of Mango chutney spread on the side of the wrap

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Michael Gove.

I had something similar for lunch :thumbup:

a packet of sainsburies curry flavour noodles ( think super noodles but cheaper ) with some button mushrooms and very small bits of pineapple ( think a normal chunk cut into 3 ) and a chillie chopped up all in a Wrap, with a dollop of Mango chutney spread on the side of the wrap

That sounds ****ing rank

I am not convinced 30p sausage and mash is possible but you can definitely eat a main meal for a quid if you don't mind a lack of variety. If you can go yellow sticker shopping at the right time, you can freeze some pretty good discounts and eat quite a varied diet for not much money.

That being said, covering up a cost of living crisis by blaming people for not being able to cook isn't a good look.

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Re: Michael Gove.

That sounds ****ing rank

I am not convinced 30p sausage and mash is possible but you can definitely eat a main meal for a quid if you don't mind a lack of variety. If you can go yellow sticker shopping at the right time, you can freeze some pretty good discounts and eat quite a varied diet for not much money.

That being said, covering up a cost of living crisis by blaming people for not being able to cook isn't a good look.

I cannot see how you can make a meal for 30p unless it is mass produced. Depending on where you shop, an apple alone can cost 30p.

Maybe they were all eating lembas bread.

[blue matt]

Re: Michael Gove.

That sounds ****ing rank

It was random I give you that, didnt get all of the noodles in though

fairly decent taste though, some heat from the chilli, some sweetness from the mango chutney and pineapple

[Wash DC Blue]

Re: Michael Gove.

What makes you think I want Johnson to stay in post given I have stated previously I think he should resign. And what makes you think current Tory thinking is Johnson should stay in post? Prior to the invasion of Ukraine, Johnson was facing a backbench revolt.

and make no mistake, most politicians are in it for themselves. There's very few who are truly munificent with entirely altruistic intentions. Tony Benn springs to mind, and maybe Dennis Skinner.

there we are then, it must be false if it says so on the internet.

Tony Benn and Dennis Skinner aren't proper Labour because they wanted out of the EU!

I could hardly afford to feed myself when I left home, eating Instant Mash and tinned Mince.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Michael Gove.

What makes you think I want Johnson to stay in post given I have stated previously I think he should resign. And what makes you think current Tory thinking is Johnson should stay in post? Prior to the invasion of Ukraine, Johnson was facing a backbench revolt.

and make no mistake, most politicians are in it for themselves. There's very few who are truly munificent with entirely altruistic intentions. Tony Benn springs to mind, and maybe Dennis Skinner.

there we are then, it must be false if it says so on the internet.

Maybe you're right to say that you shouldn't trust all you read on fact checking sites - I'd forgotten about this example of the sort of syhsters who could use them for their own ends.

https://news.sky.com/story/tories-criticised-for-misleading-public-with-twitter-fact-check-name-change-11865342

https://www.ft.com/content/0582a0d0-0b1f-11ea-b2d6-9bf4d1957a67

[life on mars]

Re: Michael Gove.

Tony Benn and Dennis Skinner aren't proper Labour because they wanted out of the EU!

I could hardly afford to feed myself when I left home, eating Instant Mash and tinned Mince.

Lot of folk have been there, starved as kid , no extra benefits pay outs for my mum , dad died when I was very young (alcohol addiction ) got married lost house declared myself bankrupt via a personal court order to get rid of all debts ,self thankfully its not like that now and benefits are better , i'm sure there a few still struggling because of personal reasons.

I have terrible arguments with one of my kids who thinks its okay to go shopping in a taxi have takeaways delivered and then moans her benefits don't stretch , as she smokes and drinks her way through the month , she earns more on benefits than people I work with

[Hilts]

Re: Michael Gove.

Tony Benn and Dennis Skinner aren't proper Labour because they wanted out of the EU!

I could hardly afford to feed myself when I left home, eating Instant Mash and tinned Mince.

Plenty on the left wanted out of the EU.

[ninian opinian]

Re: Michael Gove.

Lot of folk have been there, starved as kid , no extra benefits pay outs for my mum , dad died when I was very young (alcohol addiction ) got married lost house declared myself bankrupt via a personal court order to get rid of all debts ,self thankfully its not like that now and benefits are better , i'm sure there a few still struggling because of personal reasons.

I have terrible arguments with one of my kids who thinks its okay to go shopping in a taxi have takeaways delivered and then moans her benefits don't stretch , as she smokes and drinks her way through the month , she earns more on benefits than people I work with

And this years DHOTYA goes to :sherlock: