Staffies.

[the other bob wilson]

Best dogs I’ve ever had - as usual, mine is on my lap as I write this.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/02/chitra-ramaswamy-older-dogs

[Rjk]

Re: Staffies.

I know they can be great dogs, and very affectionate.
I think they are also the dog most responsible for deaths or serious injury in the UK though from memory.

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Re: Staffies.

I know they can be great dogs, and very affectionate.
I think they are also the dog most responsible for deaths or serious injury in the UK though from memory.

I think you'll find pure staff breeds are responsible for very little in the way of attacks. They are proper terriers, but great around people of all ages. Its the staff mixes that you have to worry about, not the pure breed staff and EBT.

[Canton Kev]

Re: Staffies.

I know they can be great dogs, and very affectionate.
I think they are also the dog most responsible for deaths or serious injury in the UK though from memory.

Unsurprisingly it turns out dogs meticulously bred to fight, hunt and kill are pretty decent at it. Likewise sheepdogs and retrievers have been bred for certain roles.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Staffies.

Unsurprisingly it turns out dogs meticulously bred to fight, hunt and kill are pretty decent at it. Likewise sheepdogs and retrievers have been bred for certain roles.

If its owner is a wanker yes.

Great dogs.

[Lither_1927]

Re: Staffies.

I know they can be great dogs, and very affectionate.
I think they are also the dog most responsible for deaths or serious injury in the UK though from memory.

Rubbish, maybe you're thinking of American pitbulls.

[Canton Kev]

Re: Staffies.

If its owner is a wanker yes.

Great dogs.

Sure. However I’d much prefer to come across a wanker who owns a Scottie dog or Pomeranian instead of a wanker with a staffie or pit bull.

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Re: Staffies.

Unsurprisingly it turns out dogs meticulously bred to fight, hunt and kill are pretty decent at it. Likewise sheepdogs and retrievers have been bred for certain roles.

Staffs bred to fight? Are they? They are so far removed from original bull and terrier breed that you may as well say a Kangal is a lapdog.

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Re: Staffies.

Rubbish, maybe you're thinking of American pitbulls.

American pitbulls were bred from staffs, and via selective breeding have increased in size. Great dogs. Again it is the cross breed mixes that are problematic.

did you know a German shepherd is stronger, faster, quicker and just about a better fighting dog that any pit breed, with a greater per square inch bite pressure. Bull Terriers have a terrible reputation which isn't really deserved.

[Lither_1927]

Re: Staffies.

American pitbulls were bred from staffs, and via selective breeding have increased in size. Great dogs. Again it is the cross breed mixes that are problematic.

did you know a German shepherd is stronger, faster, quicker and just about a better fighting dog that any pit breed, with a greater per square inch bite pressure. Bull Terriers have a terrible reputation which isn't really deserved.

German Shepards are excellent gaurd dogs, intelligent and loyal but i can't see them defeating pit dogs, who are bred for fighting.

I could be wrong but i think there are various breeds in the American pitbull. They're too big and aggressive to have soley Staff lineage. Here are the dogs with strongest bite force overall (according to google)

Mastiff - 552 pounds. The Mastiff takes the crown with a reported bite force of 552 pounds. ...

Rottweiler - 328 pounds. Rotties are known for being fierce and strong dogs. ...

American Bulldog - 305 pounds. ...

German Shepherd - 238 pounds. ...

Pitbull - 235 pounds.

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Re: Staffies.

The quicker all pure bred dogs are phased out , the better

Pugs , boxers , breathing difficulties

Corgies .....short legs which gives them heart problems

I think people who ALWAYS get a retriever or a Lab or an Alsactian are part of the problem in this country

The dogs homes are full of unwanted animals yet people obsessed with a certain breed simply HAVE to pay for a pedigree dog

Dog breeding should be banned for a few years to see if we can alter the gene pool

[stan butler]

Re: Staffies.

I know they can be great dogs, and very affectionate.
I think they are also the dog most responsible for deaths or serious injury in the UK though from memory.

No the owners are responsible for the deaths in my opinion...
I've had staffies , pitbulls etc since i was a kid and not one has ever bitten anyone or started a fight.

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Re: Staffies.

German Shepards are excellent gaurd dogs, intelligent and loyal but i can't see them defeating pit dogs, who are bred for fighting.

I could be wrong but i think there are various breeds in the American pitbull. They're too big and aggressive to have soley Staff lineage. Here are the dogs with strongest bite force overall (according to google)

Mastiff - 552 pounds. The Mastiff takes the crown with a reported bite force of 552 pounds. ...

Rottweiler - 328 pounds. Rotties are known for being fierce and strong dogs. ...

American Bulldog - 305 pounds. ...

German Shepherd - 238 pounds. ...

Pitbull - 235 pounds.

The question I would ask is wtf is someone doing with an animal as powerful as these as a pet ?

Police officer , security guard , old lady living on her own isolated and vulnerable I can understand

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Re: Staffies.

German Shepards are excellent gaurd dogs, intelligent and loyal but i can't see them defeating pit dogs, who are bred for fighting.

I could be wrong but i think there are various breeds in the American pitbull. They're too big and aggressive to have soley Staff lineage. Here are the dogs with strongest bite force overall (according to google)

Mastiff - 552 pounds. The Mastiff takes the crown with a reported bite force of 552 pounds. ...

Rottweiler - 328 pounds. Rotties are known for being fierce and strong dogs. ...

American Bulldog - 305 pounds. ...

German Shepherd - 238 pounds. ...

Pitbull - 235 pounds.

GSDs are indeed wonderful dogs, and whilst they have been used extensively within the police and military, this is due to their intelligence and their ability to be trained. The GSD was originally a herding/guard dog of sheep and would be used by the farmers to help drove their flock to town.

The Kangal has the strongest bite force of any dog, not the mastiff, followed by the Ovcharka. bite force alone is not enough, as a dog has to have strength.

now turning to the Bull Terrier breeds, these were a cross of the original English Bulldog - known for gameness and bull baiting (not fighting), and the Terrier - known for its energy and tenacity. The Bull and Terrier breeds were bred to fight similar sized dogs, not larger herding dogs such as shepherds, kangals or boerbals, which were crossed with wolves early on in the breeding.

You put a working line shepherd/kangal who is used to fighting foxes and wolves against any bull terrier and the outcome is very predictable. You should not confuse the pet and show lines we have with the original breed which were bred for a very specific purpose.

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Re: Staffies.

The quicker all pure bred dogs are phased out , the better

Pugs , boxers , breathing difficulties

Corgies .....short legs which gives them heart problems

I think people who ALWAYS get a retriever or a Lab or an Alsactian are part of the problem in this country

The dogs homes are full of unwanted animals yet people obsessed with a certain breed simply HAVE to pay for a pedigree dog

Dog breeding should be banned for a few years to see if we can alter the gene pool

The Kennel club changed the name of the breed back to German Shepherd Dog in 1977. This was after being changed to Alsatian during WW1.