Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

I wonder why young people can't afford to buy houses?
https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-average-wages

oh make no mistake, I agree that house prices have outpaced inflation. My point was that its not all as bleak as people think, because the cost of borrowing has reduced by as much as a quarter. In 1970 a £50k house would have cost you around £5k per annum in interest, whereas the same £200k house today would cost you say £8-10k, so almost double. Ergo in real terms the interest charge today forms a lower percentage of an individuals income, given pay has more than doubled in the last 50 years.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

This is a bit of an oversimplification. For some people at the low end of the pay scale having a regular, secure income is essential. They may have initiative but they also have to balance risks as they have financial commitments and responsibilities but may not have savings. Working for yourself can pose challenges with intermittent gaps in work and also suppliers paying late. It's not really as straightforward as just telling people to use their initiative and go it alone.

its no wonder 60% of businesses fail in the first 3 years

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

It's because older people have used them for investment purposes, they can outbid youngsters and drive the price up, this should be looked at by every UK Government and should be addressed. It's been good for them and bad for their children, they will go down this year or next though.

I can almost guarantee it will never go down to a level where it is affordable for young people.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

This is a bit of an oversimplification. For some people at the low end of the pay scale having a regular, secure income is essential. They may have initiative but they also have to balance risks as they have financial commitments and responsibilities but may not have savings. Working for yourself can pose challenges with intermittent gaps in work and also suppliers paying late. It's not really as straightforward as just telling people to use their initiative and go it alone.

True good point its definately not for everyone, I think most people need to take risks though, most of the very wealthy have taken the greatest risks, if you are risk averse, it can keep you down.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

I can almost guarantee it will never go down to a level where it is affordable for young people.

Unfortunately I think you are right, it would take massive changes, supply and demand there are far too many people trying to buy every single house that comes on the market. If the population in the country continues to increase it can only make it worse.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

True good point its definately not for everyone, I think most people need to take risks though, most of the very wealthy have taken the greatest risks, if you are risk averse, it can keep you down.

But you can't take risks if you have no money. If you don't have guaranteed income, you can't pay for food or rent/mortgage and very quickly, you are homeless and then you can't get a job.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Unfortunately I think you are right, it would take massive changes, supply and demand there are far too many people trying to buy every single house that comes on the market. If the population in the country continues to increase it can only make it worse.

It won't continue to increase forever

Many industrialised nations are going to start to see population declines over the next century, starting with Japan.
It will bring its own set of challenges.

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True good point its definately not for everyone, I think most people need to take risks though, most of the very wealthy have taken the greatest risks, if you are risk averse, it can keep you down.

Survivorship bias.

Many of the wealthy take big risks and won, what you don't see is the people who took the risks and lost.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

But you can't take risks if you have no money. If you don't have guaranteed income, you can't pay for food or rent/mortgage and very quickly, you are homeless and then you can't get a job.

Partly agree, ideally you try and do it before you get in that position, but once you there you may have take some risks and change jobs to one with better prospects, the alternative is stay as you are, I appreciate it's not easy.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Survivorship bias.

Many of the wealthy take big risks and won, what you don't see is the people who took the risks and lost.

Yep it's not a guarantee!

Following this post if theres one tip I would give is for anyone who's kids are about to take their GCSE choices and A levels, sit them down go on google and see what jobs pay what, if they can select the right subjects and focus at that age it will give them a far greater chance.

The same with university, for example if an optician pays well, you can plot the path from an early age to make sure they do a degree that will almost guarantee a job rather than a generic one. There is nothing worse that studying for 16 years and realising your degree won't get you any better job than leaving school at sixteen.

If your kids aren't academic look for a trade or apprentiship, don't just let them do whatever they want with no guidence, it's probably the last time they will listen to you if your lucky, and they already don't listen to you lol

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Partly agree, ideally you try and do it before you get in that position, but once you there you may have take some risks and change jobs to one with better prospects, the alternative is stay as you are, I appreciate it's not easy.

Most people in these jobs are never out of that position. That’s the point.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

Yep it's not a guarantee!

Following this post if theres one tip I would give is for anyone who's kids are about to take their GCSE choices and A levels, sit them down go on google and see what jobs pay what, if they can select the right subjects and focus at that age it will give them a far greater chance.

The same with university, for example if an optician pays well, you can plot the path from an early age to make sure they do a degree that will almost guarantee a job rather than a generic one. There is nothing worse that studying for 16 years and realising your degree won't get you any better job than leaving school at sixteen.

If your kids aren't academic look for a trade or apprentiship, don't just let them do whatever they want with no guidence, it's probably the last time they will listen to you if your lucky, and they already don't listen to you lol

Good luck finding a trade or apprenticeship

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

True good point its definately not for everyone, I think most people need to take risks though, most of the very wealthy have taken the greatest risks, if you are risk averse, it can keep you down.

Yes, but the very wealthy may be risking money they can afford to lose. People on the breadline may be risking their home, ability to pay bills, feed their kids etc. There's more to it than just saying take risks if you want to improve your lot.

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Re: Mick Lynch RMT Gen Sec

In fairness I would agree it's true, but not an every day situation, maybe it's harder to get cleaners in Porthcawl with loads of caravans needing cleaning and an old population?

The point is people can get on if they really want to, in the past their have been employment gaps with well paid vacancies Plumbers, HGV drivers, Train drivers, and they'll come again, so people need to look out for them and try and find ways to earn more money.

How does a person train to be a plumber which is a minimum of three years with a placement, and in doing so, have to take time off work to do so, putting themselves in further poverty and debt. Maybe the government should give them 90 grand for the three years while they train in whatever it is that they want to do in order to improve their standing in life. Sadly, that money would have to be found somewhere, Tax increase maybe, although that would make us all poorer while these people prosper. It's a conundrum, that's for sure.