Joniesta (Jonny Williams - CONFIRMED)

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Joniesta

They are when you’re an attacking player

Didn’t Modric have about 4 assists the season before he signed for Madrid?

Assists can be misleading imo, it’s can often be just the last pass before a goal after someone else has done all the work.

[PontBlue]

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I'd rather he play in the 10 role when Tomlin is injured than Ralls or Bacuna.

[Tuerto]

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Not really, they're important obviously but there are other things that are measured which indicate how good they are, chances created, ball progression etc. You can create 5 great chances, but get no assists because the striker's shit, that's hardly your fault

I'm not overly enthused about this speculation, but if it's a stop gap thing on an 18 month deal then i suppose it's tolerable. Maybe the thinking is that we have nobody in midfield with the ability to carry the ball in a central position, 10 yards or so in order to break the lines a bit and link up play. If he's cheap enough then it may be a short term solution in linking Moore with the midfield a bit more effectively. Williams is a bit like Barry Bannan in the way he plays, likes to get at deep lying midfielders etc, although not as good as Bannan at this level. Maybe it's an option to see what can be done with a player who will get on the ball and try to exploit those little pockets of space that Wilson did so perfectly yesterday for the goal-Not a long term solution, but certainly someone who can create those little angles that can pull a defender out for a split second.

[surge]

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He's one of the most injury prone professional footballers that I can think of, he as has never been able to produce performances in this division and he actually seems to be struggling in the league below this one. Why on earth would we be excited about him signing?

There are potential red flags about this signing but we need to replace three wingers/offensive midfielders this off-season and this rumour fits at least four of the five things we're looking for in a player. I would expect the reaction to be more positive than negative, but am not asking anyone to go as far as being excited.

If we have visions of him playing deeper in the midfield then positivity should be higher again.

[J R Hartley]

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Didn’t Modric have about 4 assists the season before he signed for Madrid?

Assists can be misleading imo, it’s can often be just the last pass before a goal after someone else has done all the work.

They play in different positions

[J R Hartley]

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Not really, they're important obviously but there are other things that are measured which indicate how good they are, chances created, ball progression etc. You can create 5 great chances, but get no assists because the striker's shit, that's hardly your fault

Ok, he has on average created 0.5 chances per game this season and drawn 1.3 fouls. This notion he’s going to create loads of chances and draw loads of fouls for us to score off set pieces is laughable.

[City123]

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Ok, he has on average created 0.5 chances per game this season and drawn 1.3 fouls. This notion he’s going to create loads of chances and draw loads of fouls for us to score off set pieces is laughable.

I don't think he's going to solve all our problems, but I thin he'd be a better option at 10 than Ralls or Bacuna

[J R Hartley]

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He could combine with Flint couldn't he ?
I'm wondering whether MM understands that players who were good six years ago might be getting a bit worn out in 2021.

Maybe he can tempt Keith Andrews out of retirement

[J R Hartley]

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I don't think he's going to solve all our problems, but I thin he'd be a better option at 10 than Ralls or Bacuna

We already have players in our squad who could do a better job at 10 than those. Ojo, Wilson and Murphy to name 3.

[ninian opinian]

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Just no, no, no and then a no

[LeningradCowboy]

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I'm not overly enthused about this speculation, but if it's a stop gap thing on an 18 month deal then i suppose it's tolerable. Maybe the thinking is that we have nobody in midfield with the ability to carry the ball in a central position, 10 yards or so in order to break the lines a bit and link up play. If he's cheap enough then it may be a short term solution in linking Moore with the midfield a bit more effectively. Williams is a bit like Barry Bannan in the way he plays, likes to get at deep lying midfielders etc, although not as good as Bannan at this level. Maybe it's an option to see what can be done with a player who will get on the ball and try to exploit those little pockets of space that Wilson did so perfectly yesterday for the goal-Not a long term solution, but certainly someone who can create those little angles that can pull a defender out for a split second.

Bannan is out of contract with Sheffield Wednesday in the summer. Perhaps we should try to sign him instead.

[J R Hartley]

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Mick needs to **** up and stop being a twat to Harry Wilson. Using a 23 year old kid to stamp his authority on the squad. Pathetic.

Wilson’s numbers are far, far better than Williams this season yet has playing a division higher and apparently not set the world alight even those hes got 9 goal contributions at the half way stage of the season.

[BLUETIT]

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Another "sicknote" for the treatment room

[Heisenberg]

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There are potential red flags about this signing but we need to replace three wingers/offensive midfielders this off-season and this rumour fits at least four of the five things we're looking for in a player. I would expect the reaction to be more positive than negative, but am not asking anyone to go as far as being excited.

If we have visions of him playing deeper in the midfield then positivity should be higher again.

I can't see a single positive in signing someone who has missed more games than he's played in his career because of injuries and, despite those injuries, has never produced any type of form that makes him look like he'd be capable of producing what we would need him to do.

At least someone like Jack Wilshere has shown that he could perform at the highest level, despite his recurring injuries. Williams has struggled at Championship level and is now struggling in League One... I cannot see a positive.

I have to agree with the posters who have said that his potential signing wouldn't be defended if he wasn't Welsh.

[Croesy Blue]

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They play in different positions

That doesn’t change the point though does it