Terrible terrible Birmingham

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Cardiff Urban Area ....Cardiff and nearby built up areas ......479000

Southampton ......800000

Cardiff Metropolitan Area .......Cardiff , Newport , Bridgend , Valleys , Vale Of Glamorgan .....1 .1 million

Southampton Portsmouth Metropolitan Area .....1.6 million

Wrong , I’m looking at the 2021 census

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No that's the population of the city of Southampton

Including Portsmouth the metropolitan area of South Hampshire is 1 .6 million

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Hampshire

Southampton & Portsmouth are in the same urban area.

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There is no local authority for S Hampshire, however the whole of Hampshire ( has 1.4 million population) but has Dorset to the west, Wiltshire to the north-west, Berkshire to the north, Surrey to the north-east, and West Sussex to the east.

There's no local authority for Cardiff, the Vale, the valleys, Bridgend but its known as the Cardiff metropolitan area , about 800000, 1.1 million including Newport

South Hampshire .....Southampton and Portsmouth, 1.6 million

If we take just Southampton, the city , together with the built up area around it .....the Southampton urban area is about twice the size of Cardiff

Cardiff as a football club has the valleys , Bridgend, the Vale of Glamorgan etc within driving distance but they are not part of Cardiffs urban area ....25 miles away in some cases

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Hampshire

Southampton & Portsmouth are in the same urban area.

That's a metropolitan conurbation .....they merge

Cardiff and Newport and the valleys and Bridgend don't join ......not yet anyway

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Wrong , I’m looking at the 2021 census

Don't engage with him. He's been argumentative and somewhat shell-shocked since Monday evening.

He predicted "The 'Pool" would trounce Crystal Palace 5-0 (and that was just at halftime) and has had a cob on since they flopped. He was supremely confident before their opening fixture at Fulham as well.

Gloom has descended upon the Cowbridge smut king's abode.

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Wrong , I’m looking at the 2021 census

You are wrong

Southampton urban area 800k
Cardiff 450 or so

Cardiff is bigger as a city but smaller as an urban area

Nottingham , Newcastle .........both smaller cities than Cardiff ......but far bigger urban built up areas

It makes me laugh when people think Cardiff.....is bigger than .....Newcastle

As a dot on the map maybe but the urban expanse is huge . Go to Newcastle or Nottingham or Southampton , go around the places

Far bigger than Cardiff

South Hampshire is the name given to the population of the Southampton, Portsmouth built up area ..1. 6 million ......that's bigger than the south Wales built up area

You said Hampshire has a population of 1.6 million .......that's only Southampton and Portsmouth.....

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2021 census doesn’t mention S Hampshire, so perhaps they have changed the boundaries

Portsmouth 208,100 104,900 103,200
Southampton 249,000 124,000 125,000
Wealden 160,100 83,000 77,100
Hampshire 1,400,800 716,000 684,700
Basingstoke and Deane 185,200 93,500 91,700
East Hampshire 125,700 64,700 61,000
Eastleigh 136,400 69,700 66,700
Fareham 114,500 58,700 55,800
Gosport 81,900 41,800 40,100
Hart 99,400 50,300 49,100
Havant 124,200 64,200 60,000
New Forest 175,800 91,200 84,500

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You are wrong

Southampton urban area 800k
Cardiff 450 or so

Cardiff is bigger as a city but smaller as an urban area

Nottingham , Newcastle .........both smaller cities than Cardiff ......but far bigger urban built up areas

It makes me laugh when people think Cardiff.....is bigger than .....Newcastle

As a dot on the map maybe but the urban expanse is huge . Go to Newcastle or Nottingham or Southampton , go around the places

Far bigger than Cardiff

South Hampshire is the name given to the population of the Southampton, Portsmouth built up area ..1. 6 million ......that's bigger than the south Wales built up area

You said Hampshire has a population of 1.6 million .......that's only Southampton and Portsmouth.....

So, as Cities go, Cardiff is bigger than Nottingham and Newcastle?

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That's a metropolitan conurbation .....they merge

Cardiff and Newport and the valleys and Bridgend don't join ......not yet anyway

"In the 2001 census Portsmouth and Southampton were recorded as being parts of separate urban areas however by the time of the 2011 census they had merged to become the sixth largest built-up area in England with a population of 855,569"

The figure you're quoting as being Southampton's urban area also includes Portsmouth. The total urban population of Southampton in 2001 was 304,000 so either it's trebled in 20 years or they've included Portsmouth since 2011, which seems more likely?

This map: https://www.citypopulation.de/en/uk/cities/englandua/ shows the urban area, it includes Portsmouth

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Cardiff apparently is around 400,000 as a city , in 2022

Population change in certain areas may reflect how the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic affected people's choice of usual residence on Census Day, for example, students in Cardiffs case and in other urban areas of the city itself people were not at home.

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"In the 2001 census Portsmouth and Southampton were recorded as being parts of separate urban areas however by the time of the 2011 census they had merged to become the sixth largest built-up area in England with a population of 855,569"

The figure you're quoting as being Southampton's urban area also includes Portsmouth. The total urban population of Southampton in 2001 was 304,000 so either it's trebled in 20 years or they've included Portsmouth since 2011, which seems more likely?

This map: https://www.citypopulation.de/en/uk/cities/englandua/ shows the urban area, it includes Portsmouth

No the Pompey Southampton urban area is 1.6 million .......South Hampshire

Of that 1.6 million , about 900k ....a lot bigger than Cardiffs urban area ........make up Southamptons urban area

The city of Southampton, like Newcastle, Nottingham isn't that big ...but it's urban area is bigger than Cardiff ......same as Newcastle urban area and Nottingham urban area

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So, as Cities go, Cardiff is bigger than Nottingham and Newcastle?

Well the town centre where you go to primark might be but not the wider urban area

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No the Pompey Southampton urban area is 1.6 million .......South Hampshire

Of that 1.6 million , about 900k ....a lot bigger than Cardiffs urban area ........make up Southamptons urban area

The city of Southampton, like Newcastle, Nottingham isn't that big ...but it's urban area is bigger than Cardiff ......same as Newcastle urban area and Nottingham urban area

Even if it was bigger than Cardiff (urban area ) which I’d argue it isn’t the area you are talking about has a significantly higher amount of people aged 60-90 compared to the Cardiff Urban Area,so it could be argued that would impact support.

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Even if it was bigger than Cardiff (urban area ) which I’d argue it isn’t the area you are talking about has a significantly higher amount of people aged 60-90 compared to the Cardiff Urban Area,so it could be argued that would impact support.

To be fair the Southampton fans I have met are usually grey haired and puffing on pipes

And that's just the women

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To be fair the Southampton fans I have met are usually grey haired and puffing on pipes

And that's just the women

Statistics hey :hehe: