Rumours doing the rounds

[celticknight]

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I'll believe this "rumour" when it comes from a credible source.

[BlueArmy 86]

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Absolutely not true. It immediately silences the person and is just another form of bullying and oppression. It devalues and is victim blaming. Ask any women who has experienced sexual harassment or worse. These things are related. It's all about an abuse of power.

Sexual harassment or worse? WTF how have we got here?

Keiran Dyer had to clean up someone shit at Ipswich as a youngster. Things are much better these days, the youngsters dont even clean the 1st teams players boots anymore. A couple of harsh words are **** all IMO

EDIT - that being said, if evidence of proper bullying comes out I'll accept I'm wrong

[Nobody's Rep]

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There's a difference between someone screaming at your face in front of all your colleagues, or calling people out on national TV compared to a message board thread with 20/30 contributors.

Morison has been a bully in public, so I don't see why it should surprise anyone that he has been a bully in private. I've been sent some stuff on twitter this morning, that I won't share but I'm now extremely glad to see him gone if it is true.

Totally disagree with the notion that this messageboard could not impact on someone's mental health through bullying - online bullying is a huge problem and has led to significant issues for people and the impact on their mental health - volume of contributors or degree of exposure is irrelevant in my view

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Not necessarily. I'm retired now, but over 40:years I had a varied career,. I was in the merchant navy to begin with and finished as a test manager for a software company. In between I worked for various software companies, in the steel industry and various other companies.
Many people change path over the course of a career.
If the poster was an accountant or in HR then he could have worked in any different businesses but stuck to the same profession.

Agreed. I was effectively retired in my early 40s and had to re-skill to keep sane. There are a lot more people in this position now. I also vowed I'd never work for anybody again and have been freelance ever since.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Sexual harassment or worse? WTF how have we got here?

Keiran Dyer had to clean up someone shit at Ipswich as a youngster. Things are much better these days, the youngsters dont even clean the 1st teams players boots anymore. A couple of harsh words are **** all IMO

If someone screamed at someone and brought them to tears, they've gone too far. If I came into your office, in front of all your colleagues and started ranting and raving (over god knows what, we drew 0-0), then you wouldn't like it. Even if you sucked it up and took it, most people would think, stuff that, I'm not lifting a finger for this boss while a good number would crumble.

Why do you think managers like Mourinho struggle now? People have changed, it is not acceptable in 2022. If you listen to Undr the cosh or other podcasts, half the stuff I hear, I think, Jesus, I am glad I wasn't around and I'm certainly glad it doesn't happen any more.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Sexual harassment or worse? WTF how have we got here?

Keiran Dyer had to clean up someone shit at Ipswich as a youngster. Things are much better these days, the youngsters dont even clean the 1st teams players boots anymore. A couple of harsh words are **** all IMO

EDIT - that being said, if evidence of proper bullying comes out I'll accept I'm wrong

I did explain that it gets there via abuse of power. The wider discussion is about what's acceptable and not whether anybody's right or wrong. Nobody needs to fall out over this stuff. I find it interesting and it resonates with me personally.

[stan butler]

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No prizes for guessing how, you sound a right bootlicker.

:hehe:

[StraightOuttaCanton]

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There's a difference between someone screaming at your face in front of all your colleagues, or calling people out on national TV compared to a message board thread with 20/30 contributors.

Morison has been a bully in public, so I don't see why it should surprise anyone that he has been a bully in private. I've been sent some stuff on twitter this morning, that I won't share but I'm now extremely glad to see him gone if it is true.

Now you’re using your view of how the world should be. Social media bullying is the horrible cause of huge numbers of suicide. You have absolutely no idea of the mental state of the people you post about and also no idea who reads this board.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

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Totally disagree with the notion that this messageboard could not impact on someone's mental health through bullying - online bullying is a huge problem and has led to significant issues for people and the impact on their mental health - volume of contributors or degree of exposure is irrelevant in my view

👍… didn’t see your post until after I’d replied

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Now you’re using your view of how the world should be. Social media bullying is the horrible cause of huge numbers of suicide. You have absolutely no idea of the mental state of the people you post about and also no idea who reads this board.

Social media bullying is horrible. I do think you should be able to comment on what you have been told by people you trust though. If you cannot comment on anything, then we can't have a message board. You need to be able to voice your opinion on here and there is a great difference between that and vile social media abuse.

[J R Hartley]

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Social media bullying is horrible. I do think you should be able to comment on what you have been told by people you trust though. If you cannot comment on anything, then we can't have a message board. You need to be able to voice your opinion on here and there is a great difference between that and vile social media abuse.

This is a poster who accused me of physically abusing my wife and children mind. Hes in no position to preach on the harm words on a message board can cause.

[J R Hartley]

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There's a difference between someone screaming at your face in front of all your colleagues, or calling people out on national TV compared to a message board thread with 20/30 contributors.

Morison has been a bully in public, so I don't see why it should surprise anyone that he has been a bully in private. I've been sent some stuff on twitter this morning, that I won't share but I'm now extremely glad to see him gone if it is true.

The person who DMd me on Twitter yesterday telling me about the West Brom incident, and the player concerned, seems to have gone a lot more public with the bullying claims on there today.

Maybe the lad was reduced to tears by being shouted at because its happened time and time again this year. If someone is constantly having a go at you then it can take its toll mentally. Just because 20/30 years ago tough loves was seen as the way to get the best out of players, its clearly not the case in 2022. Young men are told to talk about their feelings and dont bottle things up and then as soon as word gets out that one of them got upset at being on the end of Morisons tongue lashings once too often hes told to man up, didnt do the players in the old days any harm.etc.etc

[J R Hartley]

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Two of the young players from last season, one left, one now out on loan, had been part of the first team squad last season under Mick and had a locker / own personal space in the senior dressing room since pre-season, they were classed as part of the first team squad rather than the Under 23s and in their changing room.

When Morison made some signings in January they both had their belongings thrown out of the locker and dumped into the under 23s changing room with no explanation beforehand. Just turned up to training to find their belongings removed. Fair enough if they werent part of the plans and they needed the locker for the new players but they should have been told beforehand.

Is this an acceptable way to treat young staff? He talked about nothing being handed on a plate to young players but why would he think he doesnt even owe them an explanation, having been part of the first team dressing room for 6 months and then just kicked out with no explanation? The mans man management skills were an absolute joke. He will need serious training if hes ever to make it in management.

[TWGL1]

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Now who’s being aggressive?

I don’t need to justify anything it’s on the previous page. Screaming, shouting, same difference, but hey, you didn’t wince, you didn’t complain.

I see you’re full of sympathy for the way Morison has allegedly treated a few players and are not shy is calling him names , yet you act just like him with your online persona. I’m sure you’re not anything like your online persona in a face to face environment :hehe:

[J R Hartley]

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I see you’re full of sympathy for the way Morison has allegedly treated a few players and are not shy is calling him names , yet you act just like him with your online persona. I’m sure you’re not anything like your online persona in a face to face environment :hehe:

Yes because internet jousting with other name callers and multis such as yourself is so akin to managing young people in a professional capacity :hehe:

On your bike Flower Man