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  • #16
    Re: Morison v Hudson

    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well it looks that way

    Let's hope we don't stick the knife in if he has a bad patch

    Do you want to come fishing up Cyfartha Pond with me , next Thursday?

    I will bring maggots
    I’m washing my hair next Thursday

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    • #17
      Re: Morison v Hudson

      Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
      I’m washing my hair next Thursday
      Who will you run to when it all falls down ?

      Who's gonna take away those tears you cry ?

      Who's gonna love you baby as good as I ?


      Think on

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      • #18
        Re: Morison v Hudson

        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
        Well if there is a similar poor run under Hudson I hope he is given time to put things right

        We can't go on chopping and changing managers like this

        I hope Hudson is able to work with what we have because if the side is good enough for the top 10 then let's have it !
        Can I shock you? I like Hudson despite what I said earlier

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        • #19
          Re: Morison v Hudson

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          Well if there is a similar poor run under Hudson I hope he is given time to put things right

          We can't go on chopping and changing managers like this

          I hope Hudson is able to work with what we have because if the side is good enough for the top 10 then let's have it !
          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          Who will you run to when it all falls down ?

          Who's gonna take away those tears you cry ?

          Who's gonna love you baby as good as I ?


          Think on
          I am thinking... in that block you threatened to knock off

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          • #20
            Re: Morison v Hudson

            I think a debt is owed to Morison. But Hudson seems to be doing a better job with "the group".

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            • #21
              Re: Morison v Hudson

              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
              It's to do with shape in my opinion. I think that Morison was obsessed with shape, and liked to keep it even when we were searching for a goal. Never did a wide player or midfielder take risks, there were no pockets created, no late runners, a lack of urgency in the attacking third. I don't think that he was prepared to allow the players to take risks in order to score or cause opposition defenders problems. Maybe it was down to inexperience, stubbornness or a lack of ability in that area(from Morison) who knows? There were enough people saying that was what was needed.

              Not saying that Hudson is the Messiah, lets see when things start going against him, that's the test. Although it's obvious that Hudson understands that in order to win a game, players have to be more aggressive in the final third and risks need to be taken in order to stretch the opposition.
              This is key. The last time we played great football like this was when Warnock wasn't being a conservative (small c) stubborn bastard and we played those early games in 17/18. In fairness, Warnock could adapt and do whatever was necessary to win the game up until we had a bad spell and he panicked and then we played hoofball and set pieces to promotion. It worked. It could have just as easily been a disaster the margins were so fine that season.

              Morison doesn't have the confidence in himself or the footballing (management) brain to adapt. People keep saying he's got an eye for a good player. Everyone on this board has got an eye for a good player. He's just sh*t at management. It happens.

              Hudson will resign or be sacked one day. He's riding a wave and has got them playing good, exciting-on-the-eye, football. It's entertaining. Morison's teams were as boring as f*ck to watch. I think Hudson should just be left to it and ride the wave. I expected a big difference but not as big as it has been so what's the point in changing manager?

              They're all on f*cking rotation anyway which makes the whole profession a joke imo and most clubs are run really badly.

              The last time I can think of a truly innovative management appointment and one that surprised a lot of people was some guy called Arsene Wenger took over at Arsenal.

              Our piece of crazy was Neil Harris. The Board must have sniffed some bad glue that day. So here we are with Hudson. All chance. Football clubs gamble all the time.

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              • #22
                Re: Morison v Hudson

                Morison was learning on the job, but for me he had far more positives than negatives in his record.

                He did what was needed last season to comfortably get safe and undo the mess Mick left. He recruited really well in two windows - and 'sold the dream' to a good few. He assembled a promising squad with some real talent, with youth (players brought in from outside as well as up from the academy) and he put in place at least Plan A of a totally different and more entertaining and progressive playing style. He barely saw the impact of Callum Robinson either.

                But he was too often thin skinned and confrontational, limited tactically (often reacting to the opposition not imposing us on them, and seemed to lack confidence or imagination at times with his subs) and he seems to have upset a few people (some on the Board?)

                The danger once he was sacked was that the Board would throw the baby out with the bathwater. Hudson may have even less experience than Morison (at the end) but he offers continuity and development of what Morison put in place - and hopefully a Plan B and Plan C.

                He's also more likeable, and one of us. The players seem to be happy - and stepping up.

                It may be the cheap option to let him get on with it for mow, but it might also be the smart option. I thought the Morison sacking was harsh if it was made just because of results (I don't believe that) but I am happier with Hudson in charge after the clear evolution in the last three games.

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                • #23
                  Re: Morison v Hudson

                  Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                  Morison was learning on the job, but for me he had far more positives than negatives in his record.

                  He did what was needed last season to comfortably get safe and undo the mess Mick left. He recruited really well in two windows - and 'sold the dream' to a good few. He assembled a promising squad with some real talent, with youth (players brought in from outside as well as up from the academy) and he put in place at least Plan A of a totally different and more entertaining and progressive playing style. He barely saw the impact of Callum Robinson either.

                  But he was too often thin skinned and confrontational, limited tactically (often reacting to the opposition not imposing us on them, and seemed to lack confidence or imagination at times with his subs) and he seems to have upset a few people (some on the Board?)

                  The danger once he was sacked was that the Board would throw the baby out with the bathwater. Hudson may have even less experience than Morison (at the end) but he offers continuity and development of what Morison put in place - and hopefully a Plan B and Plan C.

                  He's also more likeable, and one of us. The players seem to be happy - and stepping up.

                  It may be the cheap option to let him get on with it for mow, but it might also be the smart option. I thought the Morison sacking was harsh if it was made just because of results (I don't believe that) but I am happier with Hudson in charge after the clear evolution in the last three games.
                  Good post. It would be nice to know why Morison got the chop.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Morison v Hudson

                    Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                    Good post. It would be nice to know why Morison got the chop.
                    Mightn’t have been the chop, it may have been the knife in the back by others close to him:sherlock:

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                    • #25
                      Re: Morison v Hudson

                      Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                      Mightn’t have been the chop, it may have been the knife in the back by others close to him:sherlock:
                      It's weird how these are trending on eBay don't you think?

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                      • #26
                        Re: Morison v Hudson

                        Newport fans, eh?

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                        • #27
                          Re: Morison v Hudson

                          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                          Morison was learning on the job, but for me he had far more positives than negatives in his record.

                          He did what was needed last season to comfortably get safe and undo the mess Mick left. He recruited really well in two windows - and 'sold the dream' to a good few. He assembled a promising squad with some real talent, with youth (players brought in from outside as well as up from the academy) and he put in place at least Plan A of a totally different and more entertaining and progressive playing style. He barely saw the impact of Callum Robinson either.

                          But he was too often thin skinned and confrontational, limited tactically (often reacting to the opposition not imposing us on them, and seemed to lack confidence or imagination at times with his subs) and he seems to have upset a few people (some on the Board?)

                          The danger once he was sacked was that the Board would throw the baby out with the bathwater. Hudson may have even less experience than Morison (at the end) but he offers continuity and development of what Morison put in place - and hopefully a Plan B and Plan C.

                          He's also more likeable, and one of us. The players seem to be happy - and stepping up.

                          It may be the cheap option to let him get on with it for mow, but it might also be the smart option. I thought the Morison sacking was harsh if it was made just because of results (I don't believe that) but I am happier with Hudson in charge after the clear evolution in the last three games.
                          Top post.
                          The more I think about it their must have been more to Morison’s sacking than just results.
                          I think back to Our playing style 12 months ago and know we have a lot to be thankful to him for.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Morison v Hudson

                            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                            Newport fans, eh?
                            It would be ironic if Morison ended up there!

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                            • #29
                              Re: Morison v Hudson

                              Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                              Morison was learning on the job, but for me he had far more positives than negatives in his record.

                              He did what was needed last season to comfortably get safe and undo the mess Mick left. He recruited really well in two windows - and 'sold the dream' to a good few. He assembled a promising squad with some real talent, with youth (players brought in from outside as well as up from the academy) and he put in place at least Plan A of a totally different and more entertaining and progressive playing style. He barely saw the impact of Callum Robinson either.

                              But he was too often thin skinned and confrontational, limited tactically (often reacting to the opposition not imposing us on them, and seemed to lack confidence or imagination at times with his subs) and he seems to have upset a few people (some on the Board?)

                              The danger once he was sacked was that the Board would throw the baby out with the bathwater. Hudson may have even less experience than Morison (at the end) but he offers continuity and development of what Morison put in place - and hopefully a Plan B and Plan C.

                              He's also more likeable, and one of us. The players seem to be happy - and stepping up.

                              It may be the cheap option to let him get on with it for mow, but it might also be the smart option. I thought the Morison sacking was harsh if it was made just because of results (I don't believe that) but I am happier with Hudson in charge after the clear evolution in the last three games.
                              Top post. If we continue to play decent stuff, score goals and stay abouts where we are under Hudson, he’s alright by me.

                              He’s a less divisive character, and he’s got us playing to win games rather than not to lose and hope we nick it. We’ve played quite a few different formations under him already and we aren’t afraid to mix it up, whereas this season under Morison it was 433 or bust. So many positives under Hudson. He’s one of our great captains so he has so much credit in the bank with the supporters, especially after a very good start. Lancashire opposition are no match for Hudson

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                              • #30
                                Re: Morison v Hudson

                                Originally posted by Rontomuk View Post
                                Morison has an eye for a good player, and Hudson knows how to get them to enjoy playing the game

                                Or was it the scouts, and transfer comitee, I can't see Morison ast at a computer all day looking at players and stats?

                                That said he obviously had a part in it, just how much of it was down to him, and could Hudson do just as well?

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