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  • #31
    Re: Morison v Hudson

    Originally posted by Ninja View Post
    Morison - played 10, 11 points, 7 goals
    Hudson - played 3, 7 points, 5 goals

    Big difference. Not just in stats, but performances too. Looking much better as a team, and going forward.

    Morison brought in some good players but I fail to see how we'd have gotten those points or goals from these last 3 matches if he was still here.
    There was a negative vibe seemingly spreading.

    Hudson steps in and it"s game on, City on an upward trajectory.
    Right decision at the right time, onwards and upwards.

    The main difference is we don't slowly overplay the ball out from defence every single time, the problem with this was that if the ball didn't get taken off us in a dangerous area and come straight back, it would arrive in our opponent’s box when they had eleven players in there set to block and defend.

    Now we vary it and are catching teams on the break often in three on three type situations and real goal opportunities. We are also better at pressing teams when they play it out from the back, resulting in us playing in our opponents half more than out own and forcing them to make mistakes rather than the other way around.

    Morison had us playing on the back foot, Hudson has us playing on the front foot.

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    • #32
      Re: Morison v Hudson

      Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
      Or was it the scouts, and transfer comitee, I can't see Morison ast at a computer all day looking at players and stats?

      That said he obviously had a part in it, just how much of it was down to him, and could Hudson do just as well?
      Exactly. The club have a recruitment team, they've publicised as much, and this recruitment team has a strategy and target profile which has been clear since Harris' time as manager. Morison obviously had some role but it isn't Football Manager, he wasn't the one identifying, scouting and negotiating with players

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      • #33
        Re: Morison v Hudson

        Originally posted by City123 View Post
        Exactly. The club have a recruitment team, they've publicised as much, and this recruitment team has a strategy and target profile which has been clear since Harris' time as manager. Morison obviously had some role but it isn't Football Manager, he wasn't the one identifying, scouting and negotiating with players
        There's a zero percent chance Mick signed Wintle, and we know Harris didn't sign Ng. I'db be amazed if Morison personally scouted Paderborn games in 2 Bundesliga last season and spotted Jamilu Collins!

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        • #34
          Re: Morison v Hudson

          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
          Morison was learning on the job, but for me he had far more positives than negatives in his record.

          He did what was needed last season to comfortably get safe and undo the mess Mick left. He recruited really well in two windows - and 'sold the dream' to a good few. He assembled a promising squad with some real talent, with youth (players brought in from outside as well as up from the academy) and he put in place at least Plan A of a totally different and more entertaining and progressive playing style. He barely saw the impact of Callum Robinson either.

          But he was too often thin skinned and confrontational, limited tactically (often reacting to the opposition not imposing us on them, and seemed to lack confidence or imagination at times with his subs) and he seems to have upset a few people (some on the Board?)

          The danger once he was sacked was that the Board would throw the baby out with the bathwater. Hudson may have even less experience than Morison (at the end) but he offers continuity and development of what Morison put in place - and hopefully a Plan B and Plan C.

          He's also more likeable, and one of us. The players seem to be happy - and stepping up.

          It may be the cheap option to let him get on with it for mow, but it might also be the smart option. I thought the Morison sacking was harsh if it was made just because of results (I don't believe that) but I am happier with Hudson in charge after the clear evolution in the last three games.
          Interestingly Danny Gabbidon said that Hudson was way more experienced than Morison on the Elis James Podcast the other week.

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          • #35
            Re: Morison v Hudson

            I’d be very surprised if Steve Morisonpicked all seventeen newcomers this summer himself. However, he had two transfer windows in his time in charge and it seems to me that they were among the two best we’ve had in the last decade. Very clearly, Morison was serious about changing the way we played and, in fact, it could be argued we went too far the other way. My main on field criticism of Morison was that he set the side up cautiously whether we were home or away and this came home with a vengeance when we stopped having set piece goals to fall back on.

            The fact the club seemed anxious to emphasise Mark Hudson’s attacking approach suggests Morison’s defensive tendencies was not just something some of our support had imagined. Has Hudson really been that attacking though? I thought we set up defensively against Burnley, had ago at Blackburn and provided a classic counter attacking performance at Wigan.

            I’m not sure I ever saw us counter attack as effectively under Morison as we did on Saturday and we rarely were as dominant at home as we were against Blackburn - it’s only three games, but we already seem a much more adaptable team than we were under Morison.

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            • #36
              Re: Morison v Hudson

              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              I’d be very surprised if Steve Morisonpicked all seventeen newcomers this summer himself. However, he had two transfer windows in his time in charge and it seems to me that they were among the two best we’ve had in the last decade. Very clearly, Morison was serious about changing the way we played and, in fact, it could be argued we went too far the other way. My main on field criticism of Morison was that he set the side up cautiously whether we were home or away and this came home with a vengeance when we stopped having set piece goals to fall back on.

              The fact the club seemed anxious to emphasise Mark Hudson’s attacking approach suggests Morison’s defensive tendencies was not just something some of our support had imagined. Has Hudson really been that attacking though? I thought we set up defensively against Burnley, had ago at Blackburn and provided a classic counter attacking performance at Wigan.

              I’m not sure I ever saw us counter attack as effectively under Morison as we did on Saturday and we rarely were as dominant at home as we were against Blackburn - it’s only three games, but we already seem a much more adaptable team than we were under Morison.
              There is a difference under Hudson. More energy, more direct in possession, it's all quicker, which gives the impression that we are more attack minded. Which is really good in my opinion. Morisons style was ponderous at times, the game would slow down, i reckon that he was into shape and phases of play, it really looked like coaching from the manual. We never really opened up, showed much adventure, it was very guarded alot of the time, a reflection of Morisons character perhaps?

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              • #37
                Re: Morison v Hudson

                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                I’d be very surprised if Steve Morisonpicked all seventeen newcomers this summer himself. However, he had two transfer windows in his time in charge and it seems to me that they were among the two best we’ve had in the last decade. Very clearly, Morison was serious about changing the way we played and, in fact, it could be argued we went too far the other way. My main on field criticism of Morison was that he set the side up cautiously whether we were home or away and this came home with a vengeance when we stopped having set piece goals to fall back on.

                The fact the club seemed anxious to emphasise Mark Hudson’s attacking approach suggests Morison’s defensive tendencies was not just something some of our support had imagined. Has Hudson really been that attacking though? I thought we set up defensively against Burnley, had ago at Blackburn and provided a classic counter attacking performance at Wigan.

                I’m not sure I ever saw us counter attack as effectively under Morison as we did on Saturday and we rarely were as dominant at home as we were against Blackburn - it’s only three games, but we already seem a much more adaptable team than we were under Morison.

                Morrison refused to counter attack or get the ball forward quickly, he wanted slow Swansea style play the ball out from the back at all costs, be brave even if they are all marked try, thats what went wrong.

                In hindsight it's easy to see what was wrong, we were high pressed on most games if not get everyone behind the ball, they haven't got a clue how to break down a full park the bus style defence, win it back and attack them fast.

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                • #38
                  Re: Morison v Hudson

                  As others have alluded to, we definitely are playing more on the front foot.
                  We're breaking into the box with even numbers, 4 v 4 as opposed to 1 or 2 against their entire 11 who've gotten back behind the ball.
                  It's a marked improvement for me, and a clearly visible one too.
                  I think Hudson's changes in that respect are a breath of fresh air.
                  No more looking stupidly hesitant whilst the opposition reorganise and shut us out.
                  We're in their box, troubling their defenders and keeper, something that simply never even looked likely under Morison.
                  Long may it continue.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Morison v Hudson

                    Originally posted by Ninja View Post
                    As others have alluded to, we definitely are playing more on the front foot.
                    We're breaking into the box with even numbers, 4 v 4 as opposed to 1 or 2 against their entire 11 who've gotten back behind the ball.
                    It's a marked improvement for me, and a clearly visible one too.
                    I think Hudson's changes in that respect are a breath of fresh air.
                    No more looking stupidly hesitant whilst the opposition reorganise and shut us out.
                    We're in their box, troubling their defenders and keeper, something that simply never even looked likely under Morison.
                    Long may it continue.
                    Yeah, it's that simple, nothing complicated going on. Maybe Hudson has simplified things a bit, less technical and detailed, just a case of get on the ball, be aggressive, assertive in the right areas, be positive and take risks when needed, small risks, but enough to make the opposition think. I can see Morison weighing players down in detail, he came across as quite intense. Sometimes it takes someone to just simplify and put a bit of confidence and belief in players. I think that (so far) Hudson has done that.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Morison v Hudson

                      Didn't Clough make it even less complicated with that all conquering Forest side from the late 70s early 80s, telling his midfield to win the ball and give it to Robbo

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