Wales considering renaming as Cymru

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

Some top level mental gymnastics going on here :hehe:

This seems to be the stock answer for people who can't construct an argument and debate.

[blue matt]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

No but it’s creeping in isn’t it.

I was up my mums in Barry last week and was fitting some 100W LED lightbulbs for her, I was a few short so popped down the ASDA to get some, pulled out of the car park and they have built a primary school near it, now of course they need schools as they are building more homes, but what stood out to me was the welsh name " Ysgol something-or-other " so while chatting to my mum I mention it, she says one of her friends granddaughters goes to it, turns out its a welsh speaking primary school, but what surprised me most was that Holton road primary now has a welsh name, I googled it Ysgol Gynradd Holton Primary School, not you cant tell me many around the area speak welsh as a first language, so why the name change ? ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

Nah, you're the one talking cobblers as per usual. BY this logic you shouldnt support Cardiff City. You dont even live in Cardiff.

Cobblers

Ask your taffy mates in Merthyr what part of Manchester or Liverpool they come from

[goats]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

I was up my mums in Barry last week and was fitting some 100W LED lightbulbs for her, I was a few short so popped down the ASDA to get some, pulled out of the car park and they have built a primary school near it, now of course they need schools as they are building more homes, but what stood out to me was the welsh name " Ysgol something-or-other " so while chatting to my mum I mention it, she says one of her friends granddaughters goes to it, turns out its a welsh speaking primary school, but what surprised me most was that Holton road primary now has a welsh name, I googled it Ysgol Gynradd Holton Primary School, not you cant tell me many around the area speak welsh as a first language, so why the name change ? ?

Hhmmmmm….exactly. Fortunately for us, when offered a mixed school site ( ie the racists I mean welshies were going to be given the smaller building out of the two on our school site for their key stage 1 little oshans, they refused as they didn’t want them mixing with all types of foreign kids we currently have at our cosmopolitan primary school. I think the council and wag are now trying to find another site to expand ysgol mynydd buchan or however it’s spelt ( heath park primary)

[Henry Hill]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

This seems to be the stock answer for people who can't construct an argument and debate.

Ive got better things to do with my time then construct an argument and debate with lunatics coming out with such outrageous conspiracy theories. Im finding the hysterics on the thread highly amusing. Carry on. :hehe:

[JamesWales]

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Off topic, but didn't Sam Hammam once propose we formally change our name to Dinas Caerdydd CPD?

I have some weird manifesto thing the club produced in 2001 or thereabouts talking about a new name, a new badge with a dragon, embracing welshness and all that jazz.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

Remember Ali ? What seemed like 10 minutes of Welsh drivel before every home game, just to show his Welsh credentials..

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

I was up my mums in Barry last week and was fitting some 100W LED lightbulbs for her, I was a few short so popped down the ASDA to get some, pulled out of the car park and they have built a primary school near it, now of course they need schools as they are building more homes, but what stood out to me was the welsh name " Ysgol something-or-other " so while chatting to my mum I mention it, she says one of her friends granddaughters goes to it, turns out its a welsh speaking primary school, but what surprised me most was that Holton road primary now has a welsh name, I googled it Ysgol Gynradd Holton Primary School, not you cant tell me many around the area speak welsh as a first language, so why the name change ? ?

Although I can only remember a scintilla of the Welsh I learned at school I do remember that 'ysgol' meant both school and ladder.
I assumed that the connection was to do with elevation in both cases (physical and educational respectively) but when I looked into it a few months ago the two words come from different Latin/Greek origins i.e. the words for school (schola/skhola) and the Latin word for ladder/stairs (scala, which is presumably cognate with the verb 'to scale).

I bore myself sometimes......

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Off topic, but didn't Sam Hammam once propose we formally change our name to Dinas Caerdydd CPD?

I have some weird manifesto thing the club produced in 2001 or thereabouts talking about a new name, a new badge with a dragon, embracing welshness and all that jazz.

Soup is our food

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

I'm not wishing to be rude mate but have you read The Guardian article?

“But I think 2023 will be a year when we have a good discussion with all the different stakeholders – governments, our own boards, councils and decision-making bodies, staff, club and players".

What in that quote is twatish?

[severncity]

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Think welsh is the 4th most used language in cardiff isn’t it? I barely know anyone who speaks it, those who do all went to glantaff or a few who moved down from the north.

4th?

According to this link which City123 provided earlier in the thread there are 102,000 Welsh-speakers in Cardiff.

https://gov.wales/welsh-language-data-annual-population-survey-july-2021-june-2022

I’d imagine that Polish, Somali, Potuguese, Arabic, Gujerati, Farsi, Hindi, Urdu, Sylheti and Punjabi are the most common languages in Cardiff other than Welsh or English but there is no way that any of them have anywhere near 100,000 speakers.

[OurManFlint II]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

Think welsh is the 4th most used language in cardiff isn’t it? I barely know anyone who speaks it, those who do all went to glantaff or a few who moved down from the north.

Right and wales only represents Cardiff.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

What in that quote is twatish?

It's what's not in it

The fans

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

4th?

According to this link which City123 provided earlier in the thread there are 102,000 Welsh-speakers in Cardiff.

https://gov.wales/welsh-language-data-annual-population-survey-july-2021-june-2022

I’d imagine that Polish, Somali, Potuguese, Arabic, Gujerati, Farsi, Hindi, Urdu, Sylheti and Punjabi are the most common languages in Cardiff other than Welsh or English but there is no way that any of them have anywhere near 100,000 speakers.

100000 people in Cardiff speak Welsh?

That's absolute cobblers

400000 people or so in Cardiff ?

A quarter of the population of the city speak Welsh?

No way

[City123]

Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru

It's all marketing, but it is a peculiar marketing strategy isn't it? The name Cymru is fundementally unknown around the world, whereas the name Wales is, even if people can't point to it on a map.

Domestically, Cymru will appeal to some, but I would suggest they already feel pretty at home watching international games and are welcome to call the team Cymru if they wish anyway. For the bulk of the country the team is Wales. I suppose a new name would intrigue some internationally, make them look up the countries history and all the rest. More likely though, people will wonder who the fk 'Cymru' are and make jokes about cum or something.

Just seems a strange strategy for me. Sometimes what works domestically doesn't work internationally or vice versa. In this case, I'm not sure the marketing would work for anyone.

Compared to Jonathan Ford, I'm increasingly questioning Noel Mooney's methods now. This strikes me as stiring a pot that doesn't need stirring.

To be fair, people already take the piss out of Wales sounding like "whales", maybe sex jokes are an untapped market?